Optical, and I was playing a copy of Serenity with WinDVD 7. I figured out what the problem was, the optical connection only sends two channels, i couldn't get it to send any more, so I'm just using a couple of 3.5mm to RCA connectors I have to go from the sound card to my receiver's multichannel input, but I have a problem now, there is no way for me to set the crossover, apparently the receiver doesn't do crossover stuff if you use multichannel input.
[edit]Odd, anything in winamp with base sound horrible, its clear the fronts are getting more bass then they can handle, but in Windows Media player, its sounds amazing, only the sub is getting the bass