Need help for choosing a receiver

[roberco]

I'm comparing the Onkyo TX-NR 1010 and Yamaha Rx A-1030. Both of these receivers are a little over $1000. Currently, I only need a receiver for watching movies and listening to music. I don't have a HD TV. My display is only 720p resolution. I can see that either one of these receivers is good for future upgrade. Any recommendation is appreciated. By the way, a buddy of mine is offering the Rx v2400 for $100. Should I get the Rx v2400 for now instead?
Thanks!

 

[lsiberian]

The rxv2400 is ten years old and has no hdmi. Funny that it does have an ah review though. No don't pay for it. You want hdmi.

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[Pyrrho]

720p is HD. So you have an HD TV. Just not the highest resolution possible in a home system (which now is 4k, rather than 1080p).

Now, if you don't need the receiver to do HDMI, then the RX-V2400 is quite attractive at only $100. But if you need the receiver to do HDMI switching, or need something with HDMI input for the audio (otherwise, for the "new" high resolution audio on BD, you would need a BD player with multichannel analog output), then it would be a good idea to go with a newer receiver.

As for the new Onkyo versus the new Yamaha, I would pick the Yamaha. People do not tend to complain about problems with Yamaha receivers. If you need another sentence, reread the previous one over and over until the importance of it sinks in.

You might also want to consider a discontinued model, such as:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ANdKLZGGh2S/p_022RXA1020/Yamaha-RX-A1020.html

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RXA2020/Yamaha-RX-A2020.html?tp=179

 

[Justin DeWitt]

One of the most important components in your AV system is the receiver/processor. It is important to always try to keep the future in mind when making a new purchase. Say if you decide next year or the one after that to buy a new blu-ray player or if your TV happens to go out on you then it is a welcome thought to know that your system can already handle the upgrade. That being said, both systems offer equal performance options and are both provide the upgrade ability. I would hold preference to the Yamaha Rx A-1030 however simply due to the companies longer history of durability and the sound balance is typically better with the Yamaha brand. I agree with everyone above that the Rx v2400 isn't worth the upgrade. It may seem like a sweet deal today and I have no doubt that unless it was abused it would last another 10 years for you, the limitations that you will likely run into in the future will most likely become a severe aggravation for you.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I'm comparing the Onkyo TX-NR 1010 and Yamaha Rx A-1030. Both of these receivers are a little over $1000. Currently, I only need a receiver for watching movies and listening to music. I don't have a HD TV. My display is only 720p resolution. I can see that either one of these receivers is good for future upgrade. Any recommendation is appreciated. By the way, a buddy of mine is offering the Rx v2400 for $100. Should I get the Rx v2400 for now instead?
Thanks!

Getting a receiver for future upgrade is futile exercise. Only one single component/feature should considered and that's is 7.1 Pre-outs - cheap models lack it and it would allow you to use external amplification if you get a different (heavy amp load) speakers like Maggies for example.

You need to ask yourself, which feature you must have (like HDMI/other digital inputs) and which features you'd like to have - do sit down and do your homework - what is Auto Room calibration, bass management, Video upscaling etc...

If you need more assistance - do list all of your existing equipment in fine details....

p.s: My ex-TV was 720p, had hdmi port and was definitely and HT TV

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You could try to find a dealer who could sell you a Denon X4000 for $900 or AVR4311 for about $1200.
Audyssey XT32 + dual Sub EQ. Gotta have.

 

[mark620]

Don't mean to tread jack but how does the denon x4000 compare to the yamaha rx-a1030?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

720p is HD.

And since 720p is the same thing as 1080i, I prefer to call it "1080i".

 

[RichB]

And since 720p is the same thing as 1080i, I prefer to call it "1080i".

You say apple, I say orange

- Rich

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You say apple, I say orange

- Rich

I prefer peach.

 

[3db]

Yamaha would be by first choice.

 

[RichB]

And since 720p is the same thing as 1080i, I prefer to call it "1080i".

You do know they are different right ?

- Rich

 

[Pyrrho]

And since 720p is the same thing as 1080i, I prefer to call it "1080i".

You do know they are different right ?

- Rich

My guess is that he is disputing my remark that 720p is HD. If so, he is wrong:

High-definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course, 1080p has more than double the pixels of 720p, but both are "high definition" (as opposed to "standard definition" [e.g., 480i {NTSC} or 576i {PAL}] or "enhanced definition" [e.g., 480p]).

While I am listing such things, there is now also Ultra High Definition TV, which includes both 4k and 8k (notice, one of them has more than twice the pixels of the other, but both are "Ultra High Definition TV"):

Ultra high definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[RichB]

My guess is that he is disputing my remark that 720p is HD. If so, he is wrong:

High-definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course, 1080p has more than double the pixels of 720p, but both are "high definition" (as opposed to "standard definition" [e.g., 480i {NTSC} or 576i {PAL}] or "enhanced definition" [e.g., 480p]).

While I am listing such things, there is now also Ultra High Definition TV, which includes both 4k and 8k (notice, one of them has more than twice the pixels of the other, but both are "Ultra High Definition TV"):

Ultra high definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, it is worse than that. There are 6 4K's, not to be confused with 64K (which used to be a large number ).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions

4K Ultra high definition television	3840 x 2160	1.78:1 (16:9)	8,294,400
4K Ultra wide television	5120 x 2160	2.37:1 (21:9)	11,059,200
4K WHXGA	5120 x 3200	1.60:1 (16:10)	16,384,000
Digital Cinema Initiatives 4K (native resolution)	4096 x 2160	1.90:1 (256:135) ~17:9	8,847,360
DCI 4K (CinemaScope cropped)	4096 x 1716	2.39:1	7,020,544
DCI 4K (flat cropped)	3996 x 2160	1.85:1	8,631,360

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- Rich

 

[Pyrrho]

My guess is that he is disputing my remark that 720p is HD. If so, he is wrong:

High-definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course, 1080p has more than double the pixels of 720p, but both are "high definition" (as opposed to "standard definition" [e.g., 480i {NTSC} or 576i {PAL}] or "enhanced definition" [e.g., 480p]).

While I am listing such things, there is now also Ultra High Definition TV, which includes both 4k and 8k (notice, one of them has more than twice the pixels of the other, but both are "Ultra High Definition TV"):

Ultra high definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, it is worse than that. There are 6 4K's, not to be confused with 64K (which used to be a large number ).

4K resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4K Ultra high definition television	3840 x 2160	1.78:1 (16:9)	8,294,400
4K Ultra wide television	5120 x 2160	2.37:1 (21:9)	11,059,200
4K WHXGA	5120 x 3200	1.60:1 (16:10)	16,384,000
Digital Cinema Initiatives 4K (native resolution)	4096 x 2160	1.90:1 (256:135) ~17:9	8,847,360
DCI 4K (CinemaScope cropped)	4096 x 1716	2.39:1	7,020,544
DCI 4K (flat cropped)	3996 x 2160	1.85:1	8,631,360

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- Rich

I was not giving an exhaustive list of formats, only pointing out the fact that "high definition" is not one format, but more than one, that are significantly higher resolution than "standard definition," which is also more than one format. And now there is "ultra high definition," which also is more than one format. If one wishes to be specific, then one must say something more than "standard definition," "high definition," or "ultra high definition," as each of these expressions refers to a range of different formats.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You do know they are different right ?

- Rich

On paper, yes.

But in reality, I can't tell any difference between 720p vs. 1080i.

So for all intentional purposes, they are the "same" in picture quality.

 

[RichB]

I was not giving an exhaustive list of formats, only pointing out the fact that "high definition" is not one format, but more than one, that are significantly higher resolution than "standard definition," which is also more than one format. And now there is "ultra high definition," which also is more than one format. If one wishes to be specific, then one must say something more than "standard definition," "high definition," or "ultra high definition," as each of these expressions refers to a range of different formats.

HD had many resultions/frame rates, but 1080P, at least, meant a specific resolution.
4K seems to be marketing driven so it does not mean much

As a result, I am not sure what 4K pass-through means in all the products that claim to support it.

- Rich

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

My guess is that he is disputing my remark that 720p is HD.

No. I was trying to say that people cannot tell the difference between 720p vs. 1080i. Both are HD for sure.

 

[RichB]

No. I was trying to say that people cannot tell the difference between 720p vs. 1080i. Both are HD for sure.

I can, at least with football.
FOX, ABC (ESPN) are not as clear as CBS/NBC, NBC being the best.
It is obvious on the long shots, but I suppose that could be the production.

What I do not see, is the improved motion resolution that 720P/60 is supposed to have over 1080i/30.
Video processing is very good these days.

- Rich

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I can, at least with football.
FOX, ABC (ESPN) are not as clear as CBS/NBC, NBC being the best.
It is obvious on the long shots, but I suppose that could be the production.

What I do not see, is the improved motion resolution that 720P/60 is supposed to have over 1080i/30.
Video processing is very good these days.

- Rich

Yeah, well, you can also tell the difference between amps. Doh!