Need help choosing which sub to keep Knight vs MFW 15

[cheapskete OCer]

Hello all,
I am having troubles deciding which sub to keep I have had the Epik Knight for about a year and I love it, But i got a offer I couldnt refuse on a new MFW 15 with my rocket package, I ended up getting it for $225 shipped now I know most of you are going to say just keep it but I know i can sell either of these locally for $400 with out even trying.
Heres pics for any curious of the size difference the Epik was in my new room during some of the construction so its a wee bit dusty

Obviously the MFW 15 is the best looking one and they are sending me a free rosewood faceplate for it to match the rest of the speakers as soon as they get them but the best place for the sub in the room is in the back with the front facing the left so I wouldnt see it anyway

I have had 1 day with each sub, Avia and a SPL meter, believe it or not the best place for both of them is in almost exactly the same spot I went all the way up and down the side walls and back wall 1.5' at a time with the woofer facing left/right and forward. the only place I have left to try is in the front on the right in between the tv and right tower, but im a little burnt out on the low freq sweep right now

So what I noticed on the subs is they both stay -+2dB from 85-53hz then the Epik goes plus 10dB atleast for the remainder of the sweep down to 20hz
the MFW on the other hand goes 10db plus after that too until the sweep gets down to about 38hz then continually drops with the frequency and bottoms out at 25hz

I would assume that I would want to keep the Epik at this point but I have the MFW hooked up now so I can listen to it for awhile and while going through a demo disc I have been using to show off the new system to friends I noticed it seems to be tighter than the Epik notable on the pod race scene

I am looking for advice on other ways to find out which one is better other than just relying on my ears, I know what sounds good to me but I am not a pro and would hate to give the wrong one up

Thanks

 

[mike c]

1) are you using REW? plot the frequency response in your room? see which goes deeper ...

2) get your favorite demo scene ... play it at X db (with an SPL meter) add 3db to the master volume. measure with SPL meter if the sub plays 3db hotter. rinse and repeat ... hopefully one of the two subs can't do the SPL you wish for that scene and you will have eliminated one of them. but if both can do as loud as you can hear ... toss a coin (or see #1) make sure there's at least 30 seconds between the scenes playing to let the sub rest.

 

[cheapskete OCer]

what is REW?

 

[mike c]

Room EQ Wizard, free software from Home Theater Shack

http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/

 

[cheapskete OCer]

so can use this with my radio shack spl meter or what..
thanks by the way

 

[mike c]

yes, you can use your radioshack SPL meter as mic for REW

 

[cheapskete OCer]

sweet . Im am going to have to look into this, and how to use it

 

[highfigh]

sweet . Im am going to have to look into this, and how to use it

I was playing with REW this afternoon and it's very cool. I did a sweep, the range of which is variable, and can see where my room modes are, where the limit of my PCs mic is and how I set the limit too low, because the response was just about ruler flat. Once I get further into it, it's going to be extremely useful.

Nice '60s floor tile and shuffleboard layout. We had that in the house I grew up in.

 

[cheapskete OCer]

ya nothing like playing shuffle board after a good movie its normally covered up by a area rug, but its kinda cool

 

[croseiv]

The MFW-15 looks much more refined IMO. The Epiks look rough around the edges..very industrial.

 

[Gov]

If space was not an issue to me, I would hang on to the Knight. That being said, since space is definately an issue for me, SELL ME THAT MFW-15!!