My system help ?No room for back surrounds?

[Kingnoob]

I only have room on one side of the couch .... would stacking them work ?
Would be more like 6ch tho with 2 stacked

heights don’t do anything watching cable ...


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[BMXTRIX]

You should put your speakers in the proper position for a 5.1 audio setup. If you don't have the proper placement clearance for rear surrounds, then leave them out of the equation. Get the speakers right.

 

[nathan_h]

Yep, 5.1 placed correctly sounds way better than 7.1 all messed up. Do it like this and you'll be golden with 5.1

 

[Joe Clements]

Speakers should not be on the side of you on a couch. Get a pair and put them high on the wall . Look at A/V 1-RS at https://www.gr-research.com/av-series.html. The best I have found. You can call Danny. He is the greatest!

 

[Joe Clements]

A/V-1RS You have to build the speaker cabinets yourself. (I did not know this)

 

[nathan_h]

Huh? For a non ATMOS setup it is okay to have them higher up, but by no means necessary. Side and a little behind for the surround speakers in a 5.1 setup is the proper placement.

 

[Kingnoob]

They don’t really do a Lot of the sound would stacking them like this work ? Not aloud to use a shelf above the couch or I would .

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

They don’t really do a Lot of the sound would stacking them like this work ? Not aloud to use a shelf above the couch or I would .View attachment 44421

No.

 

[Kingnoob]

No.

Any benefits to front heights ontop tower speakers or using wides from a few feet in front towers?
What’s prologic heights pl2 z
Or should I just stick to 5.1 with no back surrounds, or front heights.
bi amping probably doesn’t do anything or I’d try it ..

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Any benefits to front heights ontop tower speakers or using wides from a few feet in front towers?
What’s prologic heights pl2 z
Or should I just stick to 5.1 with no back surrounds, or front heights.
bi amping probably doesn’t do anything or I’d try it ..View attachment 44422

They might do something on top, but probably just make the mains sound taller. Usually 3-4’ above it’s what is recommended for PLIIx. Since you have them, try it out, but temper your expectations. Definitely don’t biamp.

 

[nathan_h]

Any benefits to front heights ontop tower speakers or using wides from a few feet in front towers?
What’s prologic heights pl2 z
Or should I just stick to 5.1 with no back surrounds, or front heights.
bi amping probably doesn’t do anything or I’d try it ..View attachment 44422

No, just like stacking the surrounds, putting speakers in the wrong place will result in the wrong sound in the room.

 

[Kingnoob]

No, just like stacking the surrounds, putting speakers in the wrong place will result in the wrong sound in the room.

So might as well stick to 5ch and lose 7?
How do you get fronts to do more sound or center does everything ??


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[nathan_h]

I am not sure what you mean about "more sound"?

If you cannot place speakers in the correct location, you are better off not using those speakers.

 

[3db]

Please post some pics of your room, particularily the couch or seating area so we can get a better idea of what you are dealing with.

 

[Eppie]

Judging from the one photo it looks like you have a relatively small space. Any way to get the rear speakers up on the wall? If you don't want to run wires inside the wall, you can use a plastic or metal track to the run wires inside and paint to match. Having the rears at ear height is fine if the room is wide and you can get the speakers far enough away from the listener (like in the image from Nathan_h), but if the speakers will be right next to your seating position, my preference would be to get them up higher.

 

[Pogre]

Or should I just stick to 5.1 with no back surrounds, or front heights.

So might as well stick to 5ch and lose 7?

Do you even read the replies in your threads..?

Yep, 5.1 placed correctly sounds way better than 7.1 all messed up. Do it like this and you'll be golden with 5.1

Just stick with 5.1. And no, stacking your left and right effect speakers on the same side does not in any way even make sense.

 

[MDK210]

View attachment 44422

Is this your setup? If so there is so much wrong with this that there's no point to buy another speaker. You should get rid of all of these speakers except for the L/R and it would sound much better.

 

[Kingnoob]

Is this your setup? If so there is so much wrong with this that there's no point to buy another speaker. You should get rid of all of these speakers except for the L/R and it would sound much better.

There a way to get more
Sound out of left and right ? Center still does about everything it seems .
What’s the point of towers??
I switched amps the surround didn’t do anything on older one .
even if I set towers to full range I get no bass from TV cable .
I tried stacking surround to one side it didn’t work shut them off . I won’t be allowed to wall mount them .

 

[Eppie]

There a way to get more
Sound out of left and right ? Center still does about everything it seems .
What’s the point of towers??
I switched amps the surround didn’t do anything on older one .
even if I set towers to full range I get no bass from TV cable .
I tried stacking surround to one side it didn’t work shut them off . I won’t be allowed to wall mount them .

That room will be a big challenge but I understand that you have to work with what is available, especially with a toddler around (unless the baby gate is for a dog ).

• I don't understand the single tower. If you have both towers, I would move the subwoofer so that you can fit the towers on either side of the TV. If you really only have the one tower and a book shelf speaker for mains, like in the photo, I would still move the subwoofer and place a main speaker on each side of the TV. While the center channel carries most of the dialogue, the towers provide a lot of the remaining sound and need to be in front.
• The subwoofer can literally go any where in the room but if you have to run cable under the carpet in front of the doorway, consider getting a flat rubber cable protector to run the cable in (need to protect shielded cable if using a line level signal; if using a speaker connection to run the sub, speaker wire / lamp cord is strong enough to survive under foot). Worry about main and rear speaker placement first, then place the sub.
• Surrounds need to go on either side of the couch. If you lack room on the other side of the couch, consider moving the couch away from the wall and placing the surrounds behind. You only need about 6" and can maybe make some speaker stands out of wood.
• If using cable as a source, not all content has surround. Most sports broadcasts will have noise from the crowd in the rear channel so that's a good test to see if any information is being provided to the surrounds. Check that your receiver is in the correct audio mode as well.
• If your mains are not loud enough or center is too loud you can usually go into the receiver setup menu and adjust the levels. Read the owners manual for that. Would help to know what brand and model of receiver and speakers you have and whether the center channel is matched to the mains. Check that the speaker connections on the receiver are correct per the owners manual. If you get one of the speaker wires on the mains connected backwards, that will place one speaker out of phase and kill the bass.

 

[3db]

That room will be a big challenge but I understand that you have to work with what is available, especially with a toddler around (unless the baby gate is for a dog ).

• I don't understand the single tower. If you have both towers, I would move the subwoofer so that you can fit the towers on either side of the TV. If you really only have the one tower and a book shelf speaker for mains, like in the photo, I would still move the subwoofer and place a main speaker on each side of the TV. While the center channel carries most of the dialogue, the towers provide a lot of the remaining sound and need to be in front.
• The subwoofer can literally go any where in the room but if you have to run cable under the carpet in front of the doorway, consider getting a flat rubber cable protector to run the cable in (need to protect shielded cable if using a line level signal; if using a speaker connection to run the sub, speaker wire / lamp cord is strong enough to survive under foot). Worry about main and rear speaker placement first, then place the sub.
• Surrounds need to go on either side of the couch. If you lack room on the other side of the couch, consider moving the couch away from the wall and placing the surrounds behind. You only need about 6" and can maybe make some speaker stands out of wood.
• If using cable as a source, not all content has surround. Most sports broadcasts will have noise from the crowd in the rear channel so that's a good test to see if any information is being provided to the surrounds. Check that your receiver is in the correct audio mode as well.
• If your mains are not loud enough or center is too loud you can usually go into the receiver setup menu and adjust the levels. Read the owners manual for that. Would help to know what brand and model of receiver and speakers you have and whether the center channel is matched to the mains. Check that the speaker connections on the receiver are correct per the owners manual. If you get one of the speaker wires on the mains connected backwards, that will place one speaker out of phase and kill the bass.

I concur. Good advice.