MusicCast an Wi-Fi network drop-out

[robaroba]

Hi All,

Recently installed 2 x Yamaha WX-010 wireless speakers. All was going brilliantly until we decided to have a party and let folk connect to our wireless network.

The max output on our router is around 76mg due to the area. This means my wireless will only push out 30mg max (unless I use powerline adapters ;-)

So, music was playing through the Yamaha's MusicCast App and then with guests also connected to my network... boom! no speakers and a lost connection on the speakers.

The next day I split the network and put my speakers on the 5GHz, meaning guest could use our 2.4GHz connection.

The problem I now have is that MusicCast won't connect to the 5GHz or indeed anything since I renamed the old network SSID and produced 2 separate ones. Using what little knowledge I have, it seems that this is an Apple issue not letting go of old SSIDs even after the WI-FI cache has been cleaned and the old network SSID removed. Does that sound correct?

I've also done a factor reset on the speakers.

When I try to connect my speakers using MusicCast app all I get are errors and it won't connect.

Is there any other way to connect these wireless speakers? I could just revert back to the existing wireless SSID and tell guest not to connect ever ha ha. The last thing I want to have to wire them in. Obviously, bluetooth will only work on one speaker unless I can bluetooth more than one somehow?

many thanks
Robert

 

[snakeeyes]

I believe the MusicCast uses the 2.4Ghz band, at least that is all my Yamaha 2060 and Yamaha 681 can use. Neither of my receivers support 5Ghz band. I don’t have the wireless speakers but that is my guess is that they also only use 2.4Ghz band.

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

According to the owner’s manual, the WX-010 only works at 2.4 GHz.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[2channel lover]

Hi All,

Recently installed 2 x Yamaha WX-010 wireless speakers. All was going brilliantly until we decided to have a party and let folk connect to our wireless network.

The max output on our router is around 76mg due to the area. This means my wireless will only push out 30mg max (unless I use powerline adapters ;-)

So, music was playing through the Yamaha's MusicCast App and then with guests also connected to my network... boom! no speakers and a lost connection on the speakers.

The next day I split the network and put my speakers on the 5GHz, meaning guest could use our 2.4GHz connection.

The problem I now have is that MusicCast won't connect to the 5GHz or indeed anything since I renamed the old network SSID and produced 2 separate ones. Using what little knowledge I have, it seems that this is an Apple issue not letting go of old SSIDs even after the WI-FI cache has been cleaned and the old network SSID removed. Does that sound correct?

I've also done a factor reset on the speakers.

When I try to connect my speakers using MusicCast app all I get are errors and it won't connect.

Is there any other way to connect these wireless speakers? I could just revert back to the existing wireless SSID and tell guest not to connect ever ha ha. The last thing I want to have to wire them in. Obviously, bluetooth will only work on one speaker unless I can bluetooth more than one somehow?

many thanks
Robert

Seems like 2.4Ghz and be a bad host...no wifi for guests.

I will say...that does suck...now that we're 100% streaming I've had those same fears about music dropping during gatherings due to wifi so I've decided to bring the laptop (music files host) into the same room and connect it to the system via USB or HDMI.

 

[TLS Guy]

Well you learned a hard lesson. Wireless is not all it seems and unless you have a very expensive pro system then wireless gets saturated in a system like yours.

Luckily I put conduit round the place, so I could hard wire the two AV systems. When we were on 50 MB up and down, which was the highest we could get, until a couple of years, ago, the system would easily saturate when guest were here,

As soon as we could get 250 MB up and down I jumped on it. All cable was replaced with cat 6 and all AV equipment is hard wired. Now we can have the place full of guests and not a problem

Lastly wireless does not like 5G or the devices don't. 2.4 G is much more stable, which is probably why Musicast does not support 5G. 5G has much poorer range, does no like going though walls and has many more drop outs. So I have all iPhones, iPads and laptops connected to 2.4. I make sure of that with guests now.

With much higher stress on networks, many much more experienced than I are recommending to hot wire as much gear as you can and leave the rest that must be mobile to wireless. If you think that I believe wireless is oversold you are correct. It has not kept up with current network demand at an affordable price. It can be done, but you need to drop a lot of change to develop a high bandwidth reliable wireless system. Google professional routers.

Lastly many if not all consumer routers have dodgy software. I had to get rid of the software on my top of the line Linksys router and install open source public domain software. I could rant and rant about consumer wireless gear, but I think that is enough.

 

[2channel lover]

Well you learned a hard lesson. Wireless is not all it seems and unless you have a very expensive pro system then wireless gets saturated in a system like yours.

Luckily I put conduit round the place, so I could hard wire the two AV systems. When we were on 50 MB up and down, which was the highest we could get, until a couple of years, ago, the system would easily saturate when guest were here,

As soon as we could get 250 MB up and down I jumped on it. All cable was replaced with cat 6 and all AV equipment is hard wired. Now we can have the place full of guests and not a problem

Lastly wireless does not like 5G or the devices don't. 2.4 G is much more stable, which is probably why Musicast does not support 5G. 5G has much poorer range, does no like going though walls and has many more drop outs. So I have all iPhones, iPads and laptops connected to 2.4. I make sure of that with guests now.

With much higher stress on networks, many much more experienced than I are recommending to hot wire as much gear as you can and leave the rest that must be mobile to wireless. If you think that I believe wireless is oversold you are correct. It has not kept up with current network demand at an affordable price. It can be done, but you need to drop a lot of change to develop a high bandwidth reliable wireless system. Google professional routers.

Lastly many if not all consumer routers have dodgy software. I had to get rid of the software on my top of the line Linksys router and install open source public domain software. I could rant and rant about consumer wireless gear, but I think that is enough.

I built this home not more than 4 yrs ago and kick myself for not running cat6 in more locations...the builder gave 2 locations, the cost was minimal to add more.

We're fortunate to have the ATT fiber 1000...of course that's only 2 connections...wifi is averaging 200 to 400 down depending on the device, time of day, etc.

It's supposed to support 10-12 devices...the most we've had going at once so far is 8...and around 8pm and the TV streaming furthest away from the router on wifi got a little lag from time to time...I might look into some options to boost the signal if need be.

 

[joshk03]

Just for information purposes, there are routers out there that can bridge the 2.4 band to the 5.0 band. That way a 2.4 only device can be on the same local network as a 5.0 only device and talk with it. I have an Asus RT-AC88U and this works flawlessly.
And another feature is I can create a Guest network that can be either bridged into my local network or given internet-only permission. You might consider that as an alternative to giving your friends your main password.