Musical Fidelity X10 V3

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Illuminatti

Junior Audioholic
Does anybody in this forum who are currently using a Version 3 of Musical Fidelity's X10? Kindly post your comments/reviews.

Your comments will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Illuminatti

Junior Audioholic
It seems that there are no current user of this tube line buffer.................
 
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hiker54

Audioholic Intern
I currently use two of the original 10X-D's ( between my preamp & amp and between one of my CD players and preamp) and the X-PSU. I have been very satisfied with them and about a year ago upgraded the tubes in each.

I have been considering upgrading to version 3 but several things have me leaning towards the No side.

1) price ------approx $399 for the 10x-d and my source isn't currently offering the x-psu.

2) I've read that the 6112 tubes are hardwired. Making them more difficult to swap out.

3) I have searched the net for any source of replacement 6112's and have yet to find any. ( I know that they have a considerable life-span, but I was just checking ).


So----- considering the above and kind of liking the ability to swap and experiment with different brand tubes, I probably will stick with what I have.


Regards

Hiker54



P.S. I too have been watching for any kind of "review" of the new V3 10x-d
 
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Illuminatti

Junior Audioholic
Hi hiker54,

Im currently using the original X10-D and it performed as expected. The tubes that are connected to the line buffer are the original JAN Philips ECC88s which some users have said to be not fit "sonically" to the buffer.

My question is, what type of tubes have you installed with your buffer and how does it compare to the originals?
 
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hiker54

Audioholic Intern
My question is, what type of tubes have you installed with your buffer and how does it compare to the originals?
I installed Siemens E88CC's (Four of them). I felt the sound was much improved. Warmer, more shimmer, more velvety----kind of hard for me to put into words. I was definitely pleased with the change, although I wasn't disappointed with the stock tubes provided by Musical Fidelity.


Hiker54
 
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bohunk

Audiophyte
Illuminatti said:
It seems that there are no current user of this tube line buffer.................
I'm up and running with a new v3. After about 100 hrs of break-in, the results are, in a word, incredilble.

I have mine placed between my DAC and pre-amp, which is just one of many placement options users have found for this box. NOTE: the v3 is a BOX, not a CAN like it's predecessor. And it's a pretty good-looking box, too--extruded aluminum, I believe.

I was not unhappy with the sound of my 2 admittedly mid-fi players (Rotel single-play and NAD changer), but started hearing the rave reviews for the X10-D. In search of one of those on the used market, I stumbled across a like-new demo of the v3. After seeing some -D's go for as much as 110% of their original retail value, I figured I had nothing to lose by dropping $300 on the "new and improved" box. After 2 weeks in my system, it's worth every penny, even if I'd have paid full retail (I think they're $399, if you can find one).

The X10-v3 seems to unleash the trapped potential of many (not all) CD's. The bass, including bass drums, is punchy and tight, and much more pronounced. That difference came with hook-up on day one. I was less impressed with the rest of the frequency ranges, noticing a certain "tinny-ness". Cymbals had a grainy, almost harsh sound; vocals (male/female--didn't matter) had some sibilance that made me cringe. I suspected (turns out rightly) that a new piece of equipment coupled with new interconnects might be the culprit, so I let my changer play non-stop for a couple of days, and ignored the temptation to check it.

Upon returning for a critical listening session, everything had balanced out. Net result: the soundstage expanded; those same cymbals now sound crisp and clean; sibilance is non-existent. Probably the most notable effect for my money is the separation of instruments. Being able to hear a snare drum separate from a tom, separate from a bass drum gives you a sense of "presence". That effect works across the spectrum, and it's hard to describe. Words like "warm", "smooth", or "velvety" just aren't adequate.

So, my recommendation is if you can find a X10-v3, buy it. Like I said, I feel like I stole mine for $300. If you find a used one, and you have the extra interconnects already broken-in, you'll notice a huge difference on day one.

One caution: this was the rub for the X10-D, and I suspect it's true for the v3: the improvement may not be noticed on higher-end players or systems. Lo- and mid-fi systems might be the domain of the X10, regardless of version.
 
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