Multiple speakers chain

[dogidog]

Hello everyone!

I have a couple of questions about how to expand my system and what is the right way.

First of all, I have just a regular amp that came with 2 big speakers and from there, there is 1 output to aux. But its high pitch speakers blew So I connected two smaller ones and from there, there are 2 aux outputs that I have made to 1 with a simple cable merger (I know it lowers quality). So the first question is what is the correct way to do this.

I also want to attach a bass speaker but I know for sure my amp cant handle that. So should I get a better amp for this or is it a way to get an active subwoofer that can work with the amp and the current setup and like merge 3 aux outputs to one or something like that?

Sorry if this is a dumb post I'm just new to this haven't played a lot but I'm looking forward to it.

Oh and also if I want to get a DJ mixer how does that even work the signal goes through it and then to a laptop orrr I have no idea about that?

Thank you in advance!

Regards!

 

[Pandaman617]

What’s the make and model of the speakers and receiver? What’s your overall goal here? Is sound quality important to you or just overall loudness?

 

[dogidog]

The receiver and the first two speakers are thunder amp(THC-2003USB) the other two are heco but I will be replacing them because they are old. The goal is to improve the quality and to add a more deeper bass to the system there is also an exit for a center speaker in the amp but that would make the aux output to 3 so if there is not a good solution to improve the signal I'm not gonna do it.

 

[Pandaman617]

So it looks like MTX produces that equipment. If the receiver can’t process and decode a native multichannel signal like Dolby Digital 5.1, adding more speakers to a two channel signal isn’t going to do much in terms of overall quality. At this point on the used market you can pick up an older non HDMI 5.1/7.1 receiver for less than $100 and speakers that are of quality for a very small percentage of their retail cost. If you want more bass you’re going to want a receiver with subwoofer preouts and preferably some form of bass management so your speakers can playback the mid and high frequencies and your subwoofer can perform its sole purpose of low frequency sound playback. If your amp has a center channel output I can’t imagine it not having surrounds as well which would make it 5.1 capable. Depending on what sources you’re playing and their native encoding a properly configured multichannel setup can sound superior to a two channel system of this quality.

 

[Pogre]

Splicing a bunch of speakers together on one or two channels is a recipe for blowing your gear up. Every time you splice another speaker the impedance drops by half and puts a lot of pressure on your amp. Drop it too much and you start blowing stuff up.

If you want a bunch of speakers to play you need a multichannel amp (more than 1 or 2 channels) and a way to process the signal like a prepro or av receiver. Like Panda suggested you can find multichannel receivers that can do all of that in one box relatively cheap on the used market or refurbished from somewhere like AC4L.

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[Eppie]

This may take more research, guys. A search for that receiver links to a Bulgarian web site and the op may have limited options in that country. It's a 5.1 receiver so he can add a subwoofer for better bass, but the receiver is only rated at 40W into 8 ohms, so not a lot of power. He may have driven the amp into distortion and blown one tweeter. It is also not clear how the speakers are connected and what was done to fix the blown tweeter. When he refers to AUX connections, does he mean the inputs on the receiver or the speaker connections? Bit of a language barrier here, so maybe some photos of the back of the receiver and the speaker connections would help.

 

[dogidog]

Sorry for the delay.
This is how it is setup now Total 4 speakers with the 2 main big ones and 2 small ones
From what I understand from you, guys I can hook up a sub, but it has to have its own amp?

Also, I meant the connection to the laptop is like that(pic) but If I add center they become 3 so it's really poor quality then at high volume. So I need some external merger or smth?

 

[Pogre]

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Sorry for the delay.
This is how it is setup now Total 4 speakers with the 2 main big ones and 2 small ones
From what I understand from you, guys I can hook up a sub, but it has to have its own amp?

Also, I meant the connection to the laptop is like that(pic) but If I add center they become 3 so it's really poor quality then at high volume. So I need some external merger or smth?

Okay, I misunderstood you. I was picturing additional speakers spliced together on one channel.

Yes you can add a subwoofer but it will need its own amp. A lot of subs come with the amp already built in, but you can find them without and use a separate amp to power them.

 

[Pogre]

As far as using all of your speakers, are you using the left/right rca outputs on your laptop with splitters going to the surround channels?

 

[dogidog]

Oh that is nice ima definitely get one then
About "left/right rca" I didn't quite get that there is only one aux output on the laptop I think they are all like that and into the splitter goes the cables from 5.1 CH AC- Input. I think they are also basic they go 2 to 1aux each. From what I understand tho this is not a good way to send a signal from the laptop to the amp.
And now if I add a sub and then a center they would become 4 aux that would need a signal.
Isn't there a board or something that can boost this signal so that the quality remains?

 

[NINaudio]

Looks like you've got some older gear. The 5.1 ch AC-3 inputs you're using are most likely meant for a DVD player. I'd plug the laptop into one of the 3 audio inputs above what you're using and not split the signal any further than that.

You would connect a powered subwoofer to the ports that say SW out, which are right next to the 5.1 channel inputs you're currently using.

This looks like a pre-HDMI receiver, if you want multi-channel music from your laptop I'd recommend updating your receiver to something with a few HDMI inputs.

 

[dogidog]

Yeah its very old I got it like 8 years ago. But it still works great! So from what you said those ports are for surround sound? And the above aux is just for stereo? I'm not looking to make home theater or something this is just for music and maybe I will plug a DJ board because I want to mess around a bit. I am going to try with just one cable in the above port later.

One more question. Do you know how the DJ board works I mean with the signals it should receive from both the laptop and the amp?

Thank you all for the responses! I learned some stuff from you guys!

 

[NINaudio]

Yeah its very old I got it like 8 years ago. But it still works great! So from what you said those ports are for surround sound? And the above aux is just for stereo? I'm not looking to make home theater or something this is just for music and maybe I will plug a DJ board because I want to mess around a bit. I am going to try with just one cable in the above port later.

One more question. Do you know how the DJ board works I mean with the signals it should receive from both the laptop and the amp?

Thank you all for the responses! I learned some stuff from you guys!

Yes, the aux above are for stereo sources. The inputs you're using are meant to be used with DVD players that have their own analog outputs for surround sound. You may have some different sound modes in the receiver that will allow you to use all 4 speakers with a stereo source.

I can't help with the DJ board, I know nothing about them.

 

[BMXTRIX]

Please keep in mind that you have a home theater receiver. It is old. You may have gotten it 8 years ago, but the connections on it indicate that it may be well over 20 years old in design, or was a very dated design when it was released. It is designed for surround sound playback in a home theater. Repeat it over and over... It was designed for surround sound playback in a home theater.

If you want to play around like a DJ, then this product will be far less than ideal, but can work if you are very careful about keeping volume down.

A mixing board, like you will find in use by DJs is to mix audio from multiple sources into a single output to playback audio. It does exactly what it sounds like, it mixes audio from various sources. It may have other internal features, but typically the main idea is that it will take multiple audio tracks and mix them together with instruments and other live sounds. Some DJs use records for mixing and a mixing board, this is fine if this is what you want to get into. If you want to try mixing music, not from a live sound, then there are tons of mixing programs you can just use on your computer.

You have a LOT of research to do. I would watch a lot of videos on YouTube to learn about all of this before you spend one more penny on any of it. At this point, you have a lot of very entry level gear. It's not expensive, and was never considered good, but it is a good starting point.

Your system is NOT capable of high volume playback, it is the wrong gear for it. So, if you want a lot of volume, you need completely different gear. Actual club speakers with an internal amplifier designed for high volume playback are one option to consider if that's where you want to go. Adding a quality subwoofer is also no small task as they aren't a cheap option.

Keep in mind that nightclubs spends tens of thousands of dollars on their gear. If you have $200, you aren't going to get there from here. Be realistic about what you can expect from what you currently have, and be realistic about how much it will cost you to get better sound.

 

[dogidog]

Yeah I understand. I am well aware that is entry I bought it when I was at school Its cool for home usage its pretty loud and has a good bass on itself just not the low frequencies. I am looking for suggestions what to get next I know I will probably spend more than 5k but I want to spend It once that is why I wanted to know those things.

So do you have actuall part suggestions for me with links and stuff to know what to look for.

Yeah the DJ board will be for later when I get the better speakers.

Thank you all!

 

[NINaudio]

Yeah I understand. I am well aware that is entry I bought it when I was at school Its cool for home usage its pretty loud and has a good bass on itself just not the low frequencies. I am looking for suggestions what to get next I know I will probably spend more than 5k but I want to spend It once that is why I wanted to know those things.

So do you have actuall part suggestions for me with links and stuff to know what to look for.

Yeah the DJ board will be for later when I get the better speakers.

Thank you all!

Before we can suggest gear for you, we need to know a lot of things. It might be best to start a new thread for gear suggestions. If you do that, please try and answer the following questions as best you can:

What are you looking to buy right now? Just a receiver? Receiver and speakers? Receiver, speakers, and a sub? How many speakers? How large is the volume of the space it will all be in?

What are you trying to accomplish/do? Movies/music/DJ/karaoke/music mixing system?

Are you in the USA? If not, where are you located?

 

[dogidog]

Also, can you send some links for tutorials & stuff about everything I need to know?

 

[dogidog]

Okay, I will start a new thread!