multiple front speakers

[good_apollo]

greetings, first post on here.

anyhow, ive searched the forums looking for an answer to this question and couldn't find an answer for this.

so I currently have a denon 7.1 setup, but I have dedicated the surround back channels to run as a second set of front speakers so I have two sets of towers running as the main speakers, then the center, and the rears.

when listening to music, I usually run it in pure direct mode and the 4 towers in the front play and bypass the 2 subs, it sounds great, what I am wondering as a hypothetical, is if I had a 9.1 receiver, would I be able to assign another set of channels to also run as the fronts? so possibly have 3 sets of towers? it may seem like a silly question, but I just kind of wanted to know if that is possible. thanks.

 

[TLS Guy]

greetings, first post on here.

anyhow, ive searched the forums looking for an answer to this question and couldn't find an answer for this.

so I currently have a denon 7.1 setup, but I have dedicated the surround back channels to run as a second set of front speakers so I have two sets of towers running as the main speakers, then the center, and the rears.

when listening to music, I usually run it in pure direct mode and the 4 towers in the front play and bypass the 2 subs, it sounds great, what I am wondering as a hypothetical, is if I had a 9.1 receiver, would I be able to assign another set of channels to also run as the fronts? so possibly have 3 sets of towers? it may seem like a silly question, but I just kind of wanted to know if that is possible. thanks.

Sounds as if you are creating a Frankenstein system. Look up comb filtering. No, it is not something to comb your hair with. One good set of speakers on the front is all you need and NOT two or three.

 

[good_apollo]

I have a full infinity alpha setup with the alpha 50's in the front, they aren't bad speakers by any means, the second set of speakers added created quite a bit of depth to the sound especially in the lower frequencies when running in pure direct, I know I don't NEED two or three sets of towers as my mains, but that wasn't what I was asking, I was wondering if it is possible to assign more than a second set of channels to also run as the fronts.

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

I was wondering if it is possible to assign more than a second set of channels to also run as the fronts.

Check your owner’s manual.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[good_apollo]

I do not currently have a 9.1 receiver I buy and sell a lot of audio equipment and come across all kinds of stuff and was wondering if it is possible with any of the units that are more than my current 7.1.

 

[good_apollo]

its just more of a technical question, not so much as should I or shouldn't I, just if its an option.

 

[Swerd]

its just more of a technical question, not so much as should I or shouldn't I, just if its an option.

Some AVRs may allow that and others may not. You can download owner's manuals for 9 channel AVRs from manufacturer's web pages and answer your own question.

I'm going to repeat what others have already said above. Just because you can assign other AVR channels to play front channel signals doesn't mean that you should. Even if the AVR has enough amplification power to drive multiple pairs of front speakers at once, and it may not, the sound quality you get will be harmed by the destructive interference caused by comb filtering.

 

[good_apollo]

I have a closet full of amps for power, was just wondering about the assignability of channels

 

[j_garcia]

Your question was answered then. You will have to research which AVRs allow enough other channels to be reassigned the way you want. Wouldn't it be easier to just use those amps you already have to do this instead of trying to find an AVR that does this?

 

[good_apollo]

like I said, it was a technical question about if it was possible in theory with an avr.

if I wanted advice on pros/cons of if I should do it or not with a receiver I would have asked that question, which appears is what most people have an opinion on instead of an actual answer to the question posed.


I have searched through several Yamaha, and denon manuals and could not get a concrete answer to my question, which is why I made a post here where someone may have an understanding of the assignability of specific channels, not if I should do it or not.

 

[pewternhrata]

like I said, it was a technical question about if it was possible in theory with an avr.

if I wanted advice on pros/cons of if I should do it or not with a receiver I would have asked that question, which appears is what most people have an opinion on instead of an actual answer to the question posed.


I have searched through several Yamaha, and denon manuals and could not get a concrete answer to my question, which is why I made a post here where someone may have an understanding of the assignability of specific channels, not if I should do it or not.

If the receiver has a stereo mode for 9.1, then theoretically you can rig up to 4 left and 4 right front. Keep adding amps and you could run 6, 8, 10 why not more.
Take a receiver that has a 9.1 stereo mode, utilize the fronts, surrounds and rears, they will all be playing the "same"
The reason you can't find your answer in any manual is bc it does not exist. It's not an option for a reason.

 

[Swerd]

like I said, it was a technical question about if it was possible in theory with an avr.

if I wanted advice on pros/cons of if I should do it or not with a receiver I would have asked that question, which appears is what most people have an opinion on instead of an actual answer to the question posed.

Don't take our answers as criticism meant for you personally. There are other people, brand new to home theater and AVRs, who do read these posts. Often they want to try many things that may be technically possible, but shouldn't be done. My answer, and those of others, were intended for anyone who may read this thread at a later time.

I have searched through several Yamaha, and denon manuals and could not get a concrete answer to my question, which is why I made a post here where someone may have an understanding of the assignability of specific channels, not if I should do it or not.

The fact that several Yamaha and Denon AVR manuals said nothing to answer your question, suggests (but doesn't prove) that those AVRs can't do what you've asked about. Or, that those manuals were written without anyone imagining hooking up more than a pair of front channel speakers.

 

[good_apollo]

If the receiver has a stereo mode for 9.1, then theoretically you can rig up to 4 left and 4 right front. Keep adding amps and you could run 6, 8, 10 why not more.
Take a receiver that has a 9.1 stereo mode, utilize the fronts, surrounds and rears, they will all be playing the "same"
The reason you can't find your answer in any manual is bc it does not exist. It's not an option for a reason.

I’m aware how to use 5 stereo/7 stereo etc. that also was not what I was asking.

I’m aware how to run speakers in parallel/series off of integrated/pro amps to add multiple speakers, that’s not what I’m asking.

Denon and some other avr’s Offer the ability to assign/merge unused channels such as the surround back channels to work in unison with the mains.

I’m not here for personal opinion, best practice, availability of power, etc.

I’m asking a hypothetical question about a possibie technical capability of some avr’s.


If anyone knows if it is possible in theory, awesome. Please respond.

If you are not sure, like all of the responses on here, a simple not sure would suffice


I’m not taking any of the answers personally, I’m just trying to find out an answer to a technical question that was asked to me.

 

[pewternhrata]

I’m aware how to use 5 stereo/7 stereo etc. that also was not what I was asking.

I’m aware how to run speakers in parallel/series off of integrated/pro amps to add multiple speakers, that’s not what I’m asking.

Denon and some other avr’s Offer the ability to assign/merge unused channels such as the surround back channels to work in unison with the mains.

I’m not here for personal opinion, best practice, availability of power, etc.

I’m asking a hypothetical question about a possibie technical capability of some avr’s.


If anyone knows if it is possible in theory, awesome. Please respond.

If you are not sure, like all of the responses on here, a simple not sure would suffice


I’m not taking any of the answers personally, I’m just trying to find out an answer to a technical question that was asked to me.

My Integra allows me to take 2 surround channels and use them in a second zone, i can utilize preouts with an external amp to drive a 3rd zone. All 3 zones can simultaneously play the same input. I assume it could be done that way. Look more into avrs that support multiple zones and that could get you closer to your answer

 

[good_apollo]

My Integra allows me to take 2 surround channels and use them in a second zone, i can utilize preouts with an external amp to drive a 3rd zone. All 3 zones can simultaneously play the same input. I assume it could be done that way. Look more into avrs that support multiple zones and that could get you closer to your answer

Thank you.

How do you like the integra?

 

[pewternhrata]

Thank you.

How do you like the integra?

Personally I'm very happy with it. I've owned a few and never had an issue. It does get hot but I keep it in the open, has never shut down on me. More than likely I will stay with Integra when it's time to upgrade. When I had it running 5.1, it wasn't uncommon to see 8 hrs straight of playtime, weekend parties it would be on all day (12 plus hrs) now that I have a kid I'm able to enjoy it a few short hrs a week.

 

[lovinthehd]

I’m aware how to use 5 stereo/7 stereo etc. that also was not what I was asking.

I’m aware how to run speakers in parallel/series off of integrated/pro amps to add multiple speakers, that’s not what I’m asking.

Denon and some other avr’s Offer the ability to assign/merge unused channels such as the surround back channels to work in unison with the mains.

I’m not here for personal opinion, best practice, availability of power, etc.

I’m asking a hypothetical question about a possibie technical capability of some avr’s.


If anyone knows if it is possible in theory, awesome. Please respond.

If you are not sure, like all of the responses on here, a simple not sure would suffice


I’m not taking any of the answers personally, I’m just trying to find out an answer to a technical question that was asked to me.

If your avr has a bi-amp mode for L/R that would send the same signal to your dual sets of L/R speakers....