MP3s to CD-R/RW...

[BMXTRIX]

Additionally, I know all to well about the downside of using CD-Rs in that you can create plenty of "coasters" if you make recording mistakes -- I can't tell you how many I have thrown out after my recorder or changer made some kind of error, or I decided the order of the playlist wasn't right...I simply got so sick and tired of going through boxes of CD-R media because of this, and I decided to switch to rewritable media so at least I could keep erasing over the disc if there were any mistakes...

Don't know about coasters, just know that a ISO CD is not the same as a CD-A when putting data on a disc and because it is a CD-R instead of a CD-RW you get greater compatibility with ISO discs.

In simple terms, if you want to try a 10+ hour MP3 disc, then putting together a playlist of that many songs and just burning it onto a 15 cent disc ins't exactly the worst thing to try out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130953

At this point, USB may be the way to go with music and head units in cars.

 

[PearlcorderS701]

What I meant by "coasters" is that when a mistake is made during recording onto a CD-R, they're just about useless, hence they can be utilized as "coasters" to put a drink upon; it's just an industry nickname for "messed up" recorded CD-Rs...

 

[BMXTRIX]

What I meant by "coasters" is that when a mistake is made during recording onto a CD-R, they're just about useless, hence they can be utilized as "coasters" to put a drink upon; it's just an industry nickname for "messed up" recorded CD-Rs...

Yes, I'm aware of the term. But, a CD-R is typically burned in one session and current burning software with a decent computer should not result in any burning issues. I've burned hundreds of CDs and DVDs and my only issue has been with old media that was to slow for the burner. All my 52x CDs and my 8x DVDs have never once produced a single coaster with hundreds of discs burned. Amazing reliability is all I've seen as of late.

 

[PearlcorderS701]

Yes, I'm aware of the term. But, a CD-R is typically burned in one session and current burning software with a decent computer should not result in any burning issues. I've burned hundreds of CDs and DVDs and my only issue has been with old media that was to slow for the burner. All my 52x CDs and my 8x DVDs have never once produced a single coaster with hundreds of discs burned. Amazing reliability is all I've seen as of late.

What I meant by "errors" with CD-Rs is when the user makes a recording error -- for example, there are so many times I have begun recording and something "screwed up" in the process, i.e. I didn't begin a track fast enough so a second of music got cut off, or I didn't like the arrangement or order of tracks...

Hence, "coasters" are made.

 

[TLS Guy]

What I meant by "errors" with CD-Rs is when the user makes a recording error -- for example, there are so many times I have begun recording and something "screwed up" in the process, i.e. I didn't begin a track fast enough so a second of music got cut off, or I didn't like the arrangement or order of tracks...

Hence, "coasters" are made.

Your problem is directly related to organizing and burning your discs in an entirely obsolete fashion.

As I said at the beginning of the thread, that it totally "takes the cake."

Now one last time. Your organize your discs before burn and NOT during.

When the program is properly organized and checked, you press burn.

Result no more of your "coasters." Now lets end this thread.

 

[BMXTRIX]

What I meant by "errors" with CD-Rs is when the user makes a recording error -- for example, there are so many times I have begun recording and something "screwed up" in the process, i.e. I didn't begin a track fast enough so a second of music got cut off, or I didn't like the arrangement or order of tracks...

Hence, "coasters" are made.

Ah, you are talking about using your Tascam unit.

I agree, this would cause issues.

This is why you need to get away from the Tascam and get some decent software for your computer. You can pull the CD audio, digitally, straight into your computer. Analog audio can also be brought into your computer and captured at CD quality. You create, capture, edit, etc. entire discs on you PC using your hard drive. Then, when you are 100% satisfied with the tracks you have, then (and only then!) do you put together your playlist for burning to a CD-R.

The computer handles the rest. It burns all the tracks at once. Takes about 3 minutes or so to fill up a 74 minute CD and finalize it. Almost no chance of errors.

I've done it the way you are with the Tascam, and I've edited videos that way as well. After going to PC production of audio and video, I would never dream of going back. It's a bit confusing to use the PC at first, but the fine details are so much easier to control and the final results blow away what was possible for amateurs to do just a few years ago.

I strongly recommend that you continue to ask questions if you have them, but try out some decent PC based audio editing software. This is one of those areas where Mac users tend to gloat about their top notch software and ease of use product.

 

[Goonnapes]

hello every body

hello
I'm new here. this is my first post in here.

 

[PearlcorderS701]

Ah, you are talking about using your Tascam unit.

I agree, this would cause issues.

This is why you need to get away from the Tascam and get some decent software for your computer. You can pull the CD audio, digitally, straight into your computer. Analog audio can also be brought into your computer and captured at CD quality. You create, capture, edit, etc. entire discs on you PC using your hard drive. Then, when you are 100% satisfied with the tracks you have, then (and only then!) do you put together your playlist for burning to a CD-R.

The computer handles the rest. It burns all the tracks at once. Takes about 3 minutes or so to fill up a 74 minute CD and finalize it. Almost no chance of errors.

I've done it the way you are with the Tascam, and I've edited videos that way as well. After going to PC production of audio and video, I would never dream of going back. It's a bit confusing to use the PC at first, but the fine details are so much easier to control and the final results blow away what was possible for amateurs to do just a few years ago.

I strongly recommend that you continue to ask questions if you have them, but try out some decent PC based audio editing software. This is one of those areas where Mac users tend to gloat about their top notch software and ease of use product.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this topic, BMX -- I was celebrating my birthday this weekend (it was actually today, on May 16)...

Yes, I can see where the computer's editing software would eliminate all the hassles of these recording "errors"; I see your point clearly about that. With standalone CD recording units -- whether they be professional grade variants like my TASCAM, or so-called "consumer" grade decks (not really found anymore; these are the ones that will not accept "data" blanks and can only record to so-called "audio/music" CD-R media) -- if a mistake is made during recording, and the end user is utilizing a CD-R (not CD-RW) the mistake cannot be undone, and thus a "coaster" is burned (a worthless blank).

Still, I do prefer using standalone recording devices like these CD recorders; I wonder, though...does computer burning software, even advanced types, allow for CD-R (non-rewritable) media to be manipulated when errors are already recorded?

 

[PearlcorderS701]

hello
I'm new here. this is my first post in here.

...so why post in this thread?

At any rate, welcome...

 

[TLS Guy]

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this topic, BMX -- I was celebrating my birthday this weekend (it was actually today, on May 16)...

Yes, I can see where the computer's editing software would eliminate all the hassles of these recording "errors"; I see your point clearly about that. With standalone CD recording units -- whether they be professional grade variants like my TASCAM, or so-called "consumer" grade decks (not really found anymore; these are the ones that will not accept "data" blanks and can only record to so-called "audio/music" CD-R media) -- if a mistake is made during recording, and the end user is utilizing a CD-R (not CD-RW) the mistake cannot be undone, and thus a "coaster" is burned (a worthless blank).

Still, I do prefer using standalone recording devices like these CD recorders; I wonder, though...does computer burning software, even advanced types, allow for CD-R (non-rewritable) media to be manipulated when errors are already recorded?

Yes, with the right software, you can redo, undo, edit, change levels, change pauses, order, just about anything including add the track information for the players's display. You can do anything you can think of. You can play the CD before burning, to make sure everything is OK. Once you press burn then that is your finished product.

I good burner, like my pro Plextor drive will be as good. and likely better than your Tascam.

Your whole problem is your Tascam. As I stated that is an obsolete way of burning CDs, and data discs.

Your illogical preferences keep these threads going without end or purpose.

 

[markw]

You're kidding, right?

...does computer burning software, even advanced types, allow for CD-R (non-rewritable) media to be manipulated when errors are already recorded

And you wonder why we think you're a troll?

As for your question to the newbie, he's a newbie and probably didn't know any better. What's your excuse for your rudeness?

 

[its phillip]

That "new person" is a spambot.

 

[BMXTRIX]

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this topic, BMX -- I was celebrating my birthday this weekend (it was actually today, on May 16)...

Happy birthday!

Still, I do prefer using standalone recording devices like these CD recorders

I think you haven't given a fair shake to PC editing to be honest with that. I know there are plenty of things that I use because I'm comfortable with them. Through your statements in prior posts, it is clear that you are not fully familiar with computer based file concepts and how effective the PC truly is with what you want to do. Familiar may make it preferable, but you are clining to a way of doing things which is just not used, or being developed anymore. It is not as effective as the alternative.

I wonder, though...does computer burning software, even advanced types, allow for CD-R (non-rewritable) media to be manipulated when errors are already recorded?

The term recorded is being improperly used in this case.

You would capture the audio from your source... whether it be the radio, a record, a VHS tape, or you singing into a microphone. THAT is when you would manipulate errors out. It would be on your PC, on the hard drive inside the PC. It would not be on a CD.

You would manipulate the tracks using audio/song editing software and then you would lay the tracks out in a order that you want them burned in. You can move track 4 so that it becomes track 7. You can mix track 4 WITH track 7 if you want. You can then listen to the entire layout on your computer before you burn the data to a CD... Make sure it is perfectly the way you want it.

Then you press 'BURN CD' - and in 3 minutes the CD is done.

From everything you've said, this is a learning curve for you and you are used to analog. You are used to linear editing. The concept of recording AS you play something. When you move to a PC it becomes non-linear. You work with your music however you like before moving the data (not music!) onto a CD. It's important to understand that music on a CD is just data on a CD. That same data could be on a hard drive, DVD, cassette tape, or punch cards. It's not really music until it is converted from digital data, back into music. So, until then, you can do whatever you would like to with it.