Okay first off let's start off with the bass. I put these babies on with Tidal on my Roku streaming from the Denon X3700H in preamp mode with the Emotiva BasX 3 running them full range with no sub \n\nI'm flipping through songs loving these speakers \n\nBut was like were is the bass? It was good and tight and present but then I put on some bass heavy tracks like The Package from A Perfect Circle or Roses the Imanbek Remix and I was like Holy St#!t These things can hit and hit hard!!!\n\nVery powerful very tight I wasn't going gee I miss my sub on this. A little bloated but that's because I had them a little too close to the back wall. Once I tinker with placement they will be fine. \n\nI'm excited for when my sub comes in though. With the dynamics these have letting a sub take the load off the lower end and freeing up the speakers to play the rest they should be even better with there dynamics which are impressive right now to say the least.