Model Replacement for the Denon AVR-5805CI?

[el-ricardo]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone know's the the time frame that Denon would be expecting to release the replacement of the AVR-5805CI?

I've been toying with this idea for a while, here's my dilema. I live in Australia, the AVR-5805CI equivalent is only available in silver. Yes I know, how fussy can I be, but with a 19" rack with all my home theatre equipment which is all black, I can't bring myself to buy a component that really sticks out from the rest, no matter how good the device is. So what I'm thinking is buying one from the US. The US uses 60Hz and we have 50Hz, down converting the voltage (from 240V to 120V) isn't an issue, but nothing can be done about the frequency (so I'm told by an electrician). Would anyone know if this would cause me any issues with video or sound quality, etc? If Denon are intending on releasing a new model with all the whizz bang features soon then I don't mind waiting. I do understand that I wouldn't have a warranty in Australia but don't mind getting it repaired here if need be but doubt that would be an issue.

Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks, Richard.

 

[edmcanuck]

They just released the 5805CI a short while ago as an update to the 5805MKII so I wouldn't expect a new model very soon. That said, you just never know in the electronics world.

 

[Adam]

A quick check on the internet shows that international voltage/frequency converters do exist. I didn't look long enough to find a price, but I suggest that you look around. You might find something that will work just right for you!

 

[el-ricardo]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback.

Adam if you have any links it would be appreciated, in my quick scan I didn't find a component, only electronics parts that would do the trick and not being an electrical person wouldn't want to be making something myself, so something off the shelf would be good, that and I believe full current draw of the 5805CI is 13A so it would need to be a beefy unit .

 

[Adam]

Richard, sorry for the delay - it took me a while to track these down again.

Here's one site: http://www.falconups.com/products-frequency-converters.htm

I didn't find a lot of sites for this, but I just wanted to let you know that such products do exist.

It would probably be easier and cheaper to see if you could get a black faceplate for that model and then just get the silver one designed for your local power system and replace the faceplate.

 

[el-ricardo]

No worries, thanks mate.

Yeah I'm starting to think buying a spray can of black paint may be eaiser . Even with shipping the US version is also very well priced, here in Australia converted to US dollars we are paying about US$12,000 and that was another reason doing this crazy exercise .

Thanks again, it's much appreciated.

 

[el-ricardo]

Oh and I forgot to mention, this is why I thought there may be a new model coming out... on the Japanese website AVC-A1HD .

http://denon.jp/company/release/newavamp.html#avca1hd

 

[Davemcc]

The speculation is that the AVC-A1HD will be the AVR-5308CI, a step down from the 5805 (or between the AVC-A1XVA and the AVC-A11XVA, if you will). Further speculation is that the 5805 will be replaced by the new pre/pro. I saw it on the net, it must be true.

 

[el-ricardo]

On the same page it does display the AVP-A1HD and POA-A1HD which is the combination you are talking about... but at 300W x 10 CH it may be a little overkill . And since it's Japan it's that goldie colour silver... what ever happened to good old black components .

 

[TABCON]

AVR 5308CI

Expected Release Date from Denon USA August

Suggested Retail Price $5199

FEATURES:

• New Front Panel Design, Controls and Lettering

• Equal Power Amplifiers 7ch

• Power Output; Watts Per Channel @ 8 Ohms, 20hz to 20kHz
150

• All Channels Rated @ 0.05 THD

• THX Ultra2-Certified

• Low Impedance Drive Capability

• High-Current/Discrete Amplifiers

• Independent Power Transformers 4

• Toroidal Power Transformer

• Independent Power Supply Circuits 8

• Dynamic Discrete Surround Circuit-HD – D.D.S.C.-HD

• DSP Processor(s) – Analog Devices, SHARC ADSP
21366 x 1ADSP21366 x 2ADSP21366 x 2ADSP21366 x 2ADSP21366

• Processor Design – 32-bit Floating Point

• Processor Circuit Sampling Frequency – 192kHz

• Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital+ Decoding

• dts-HD Master Audio Decoding

• THX Post-Processing – DPL (4.0), DPL2 Cinema, DD/DTS (5.1), ES Discrete (6.1), ES Matrix, Neo:6 Cinema


• THX Ultra2 7.1 Cinema, Music and Game Modes

• THX Surround EX Decoding

• Dolby Digital Surround EX Decoding

• Dolby Pro Logic IIx – with Cinema, Music, Game Modes

• dts ES Discrete 6.1 Decoding

• dts ES Matrix 6.1 Decoding

• dts Neo:6 Stereo-to-Surround Cinema and Music Modes

• dts 96/24 5.1 for DVD-Video Processing

• Dolby Headphone

• HDCD Decoder


• XM-HD 5.1 via Neural Surround Decoding

• Compressed Audio Restorer– For Portables/iPods/Network Audio
• Audyssey Auto Setup Calibration

• Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Correction/# of positions 8

• Audyssey MultEQ Room Correction/# of positions 6

• Audyssey MultEQ Pro Calibration compatible – ‘Audyssey Installer Ready

• Auto Setup Microphone Included/Type – NEW DESIGN Y/Alum

• AL24 Processing - All Channels AL24 Advanced

• 24-bit/192-kHz DACs DSD1608 DSD1608 2/8ch
PCM1791A2/8chPCM1791A2/8ch PCM-1796

• Analog-to-Digital Conversion All Channels - Bit Depth/Sampling Rate –Only on Stereo Analog Inputs, except where noted 24/96 PCM1803 24/96 PCM1803 24/192 PCM1804
24/192 PCM1804 24/192 –PCM-1804 Includes EXT Inputs

• Variable High/Low Pass Crossover Points (12/24dB)
40/60/80/100/120/150/200/250 F/C/S/SB
individual

• True 24-bit/192-kHz Digital Input Capability

• Assignable Digital Inputs

• Digital Input – DENON Link 3rd (PCM/DSD Compatible)

• 8 Channel Parallel Digital Inputs – for Professional Monitoring Use

• iPod Ready –Denon D-dock(s)

• USB Port for Portable Music Players/Flash Drives/HDD with Command and Control functionality, On-Screen Data – Front and Rear

• HD Radio Tuner Built-In – Multi-Cast compatible

• XM Satellite Radio Ready – ‘Mini-Tuner’ Compatible

• Multi-Source/Zone Discrete Tuner Select Function – AM-FM/XM/HD

• HDMI 1.3 Repeater Inputs/Outputs – Supports 1080p, 36-bit Deep Color, Auto Lip Sync Correction, 7.1 Uncompressed 24/96 Audio 2/1 No Lip Sync 2/1 4/1 4/2 6/2

• Analog to HDMI Video Conversion/Scaling – 480p/720p/1080i/1080p

• Faroudja DCDi Video Processing and Scaling

• Silicon Optix Realta HQV Processing and Scaling – Including HDMI input sources

• NSV – Noise Shaped Video Processing

• Parallel HDMI Video Outputs

Digital Inputs: BNC 2

• Digital Inputs: Coaxial 4

• Digital Inputs: Optical 6

• Digital Outputs: Optical (Assignable) 3

• Digital to Analog REC Out

• Analog Audio Inputs, Incl. Tuner 13

• Phono Input

• Source Function Renaming

• Source Delete Function

• Analog Record Outputs 4

• Front Panel A/V Inputs w/Cover

Composite and S-Video
with Optical

• Video Conversion –Composite to S-Video to Component

• Video Conversion – Composite to S-Video to Composite

• Built-In Time Base Correction

• Composite Video Inputs 8

• Composite Video Outputs 4

• S-Video Inputs 8

• S-Video Outputs 4

• Component Video Inputs x Bandwidth - Assignable 5x100

• Component Video Input/Output – BNC Connection 1/1

• Component Video Outputs – Parallel Main Zone 2

• Discrete Second Zone Component Video Outputs

• Dual Surround Mode Speaker Selector

• Front A/B Speaker Selector

• All New Graphic User Interface (GUI)

• Enhanced Icon Based On-Screen Display – Screen Saver Mode added

• Front Panel System Setup Control

• Personal Memory Plus

• System Setup/Surround Parameters Lockout

• 8-Ch. External Analog Input

• Audio Signal Delay (Sync. Audio with Video signal) – By source

• Pure Direct/Direct/Stereo Modes on Digital/Analog inputs

• DSD Direct Mode – Denon Link Only

• Multi-Channel Stereo Mode

• DSP Effect Modes 6

Auto Surround Mode (Analog or Digital Input Type)

• Cinema EQ

• Banana Plug Speaker Terminals, All Channels Premium
Grade

• 56 Station Auto-Preset Memory Tuning (AM/FM/XM/HD Radio)

• Radio Data System (RDS)

• Direct Function (Tone Bypass)

• Volume Control Un-muting

• Selectable Muting Levels (Full/-40/-20)

• Video On/Off and Select Control

• Built-in Wi-Fi Connectivity

• RS-232 Port – Third Party Remote Controllers and New Denon
2-way

Remote Control and RF/IR Base Station 2

• RJ-45 Ethernet Port – Third Party Controllers, PC Audio Streaming,Internet Radio and Web Browser Function– Enhanced for WMA
Loseless/AAC/jpeg Photos, Internet Radio now MP3 and WMA support No jpeg

• Ethernet Audio Streaming for Multi-Zone Outputs

• iPod Command and Control for Multi-Zone Outputs

• PC Setup and Control Capability via
RS-232C via Ethernet

• Remote/Off-Site Diagnosis, Correction, Update and Upgrade Capable

• IR Serial Remote In/Out terminals

• Remote Turn-on Outputs (12Volt) – 4 (250mA)

• Multi-Source/Multi-Zone 3S/3Z

• Digital to Analog Conversion for Multi-Zone outputs (Optical/Coaxial, PCM signals Only)

• Zone 4 Digital Input/Output

• Balance and Tone Controls for Multi-Zone Outputs

• High Pass Filters for Multi-Zone Outputs

• Multi-Zone Pre-Amp Outputs with Volume Fixed

• Discrete Zone 2 Theater Output - Digital

• Discrete Multi-Zone Video Output(s) – with OSD for Meta-data from iPod/XM/HD Radio/Ethernet Streaming
Composite Composite and Component Composite,
S-Video and Component

• Discrete Remote Power On/Off, Source Selection and Volume for Main and Second/Third Zones


AND YADA, YADA, YADA...or so I've heard ;-)

 

[el-ricardo]

Thank you . That to me is worth waiting for.

 

[el-ricardo]

Anyone hear of any updates on the AVR-5308CI being released? Or the pre-amp and power amp combination will be the replacement for the 5305CI?

 

[Seth=L]

What about the Yamaha RX-Z11, it's black, it's huge, and it has a ton of features and power.

 

[el-ricardo]

Thanks but even after being a faithful Yamaha owner a few years back I do prefer the Denon units, just call me too fussy .

 

[Seth=L]

Thanks but even after being a faithful Yamaha owner a few years back I do prefer the Denon units, just call me too fussy .

You're too fussy.