Mirage OMD-28 vs. Energy RC-70?

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Jacksmyname

Audioholic
Hi all. I currently have a pair of Energy RC-70's for my mains which I'm very pleased with.
However, I'm a long time fan of Mirage products, and own a bunch now.
Vann's has the OMD-28 on sale at less than half price, which is a steal IF they're very noticably better than the RC's.
I'm using an Emo XPA-2 amp to drive them, so power isn't a problem.
Thoughts?

Thanks!

Jack
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Hi all. I currently have a pair of Energy RC-70's for my mains which I'm very pleased with.
However, I'm a long time fan of Mirage products, and own a bunch now.
Vann's has the OMD-28 on sale at less than half price, which is a steal IF they're very noticably better than the RC's.
I'm using an Emo XPA-2 amp to drive them, so power isn't a problem.
Thoughts?

Thanks!

Jack
Since the OMD 28 are inline with the Veritas, that decision should be easy. 50% off is very enticing on the OMD-28, they retail for over 4G's here.
 
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Jacksmyname

Audioholic
Since the OMD 28 are inline with the Veritas, that decision should be easy. 50% off is very enticing on the OMD-28, they retail for over 4G's here.
Hey Billy.....
Yeah, this is a heck of a deal.......
I'm "THIS" close........:)
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Hey Billy.....
Yeah, this is a heck of a deal.......
I'm "THIS" close........:)
Heh.. what is holding you back, I hope this has nothing to do with you being a tad fickle:p. If they have rosewood it would make your decision that much easier.:)

Good luck, Bill
 
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Jacksmyname

Audioholic
Heh.. what is holding you back, I hope this has nothing to do with you being a tad fickle:p. If they have rosewood it would make your decision that much easier.:)

Good luck, Bill
heh heh....
Nah, not fickle. I actually want back and forth for the longest time between the OMD15 and the RC70. It was the rosenut finish and cabinet style of the 70 that swayed me.
It was tough to decide because I'm a longtime fan/owner of Mirage.
Have a pair of M760 towers that I bought back in '89 which I've always loved. They're still going strong.
I felt like a traitor when I went to the Energy's. Now I feel that way again because I'm considering going back to Mirage. :p
But it's not a knock on the RC's. They're terrific, and look great with the rest of my system (beautiful match to my cabinet).
With the OMD's I'd have to go with the black, but they'd still look fine.
About the only thing holding me up is placement. I think you've seen a pic of my system. I have a large, very open floor plan, but I'm still limited as to placement. As good as the OMD's may be, and at this absolute bargain price, that doesn't matter if placement degrades the sound.
I'll probably call Mirage and get an opinion right from them.
 
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sedonalar

Audioholic Intern
Did you ever buy the Mirage OMD-28's...? If so, how do they sound? I have a pair of OM-9's, which have the older technology, front rear speakers.
 
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gorillacooch

Enthusiast
Please report back on your views with the Energy RC-70 and the Mirage OMD-28s, I have Energy C-7s and want to upgrade, so I'm curious about the Mirage. I'm thinking of buying them because of the reviews i've read from absolute sound, home theater and sound, and soundstage. I know they would probably kill the Energy RC-70s but still want to know how far apart they are.
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
These are totally different type of speakers. You cannot ask someone else opinion, because it could be just the opposite for you.
And these type of speakers absolutely demand a listening session in your own room with your own gear. There is no other way to fully appreciate their very different virtues.

That's my very worth it 0.02 cents opinion.

Bob
 
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gorillacooch

Enthusiast
Actually, It would be nice to hear from a person who is a fellow Energy connaisseur, because it will give me an idea of how much different these Mirage OMD-28s are. Seeing as how we both listen to the same type of speakers, I will be able to get from his stand point an idea of how these sound and compare. So actually it does make sense to ask a fellow Energy owner, his view.
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
^ Yes, I agree with you, that was not my total meaning. Sorry if I put it in a way that seems a bit unorthodox, but I think you do undestand what I was trying to say. It's nice to hear from others, but we can not based our own final judgement from that, it's only a kind of a baseline, that's more like what I meant, right, baseline, a springboard, a view from the corner of a window, that's it, that's what I meant.

Yes, it's nice to hear from others point of view, but you know as well as I know that with speakers, it's a very tricky business, that's all, no more no less.
But it is always fun to hear from owners, in particular when we can related to their similar rooms to ours and similar electronics too.
So, OK, I did not express myself accurately, sorry.
I do respect what you just said on your above post, and I do agree with you. :)

Bob
 
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gorillacooch

Enthusiast
Sorry for coming off aggressive, but I have been trying to find a home theater shop in Portland and i cant find one that carries the OMD-28 the only one i know of is in Bend, which is 3 hours from me, so yeah. This sucks. I really want to hear them before i buy them.
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
Sorry for coming off aggressive, but I have been trying to find a home theater shop in Portland and i cant find one that carries the OMD-28 the only one i know of is in Bend, which is 3 hours from me, so yeah. This sucks. I really want to hear them before i buy them.
No no no, don't be. I'm the one that was too radical on my post.
And I really appreciated that you make me notice. Plus you were very polite in saying so.

I totally agree with you, that for that kind of cash, you gotta hear them first.

Mirage is more high end than Energy nowadays. Energy used to make excellent speakers, remember the Energy Veritas v2.8 and v1.8 and all their Veritas line after these two great ones?
I did own a pair of Veritas v1.8 for a short while, but had to sell them; just too much bass in my room, and I could use that three grand for other purposes at that time. Plus I did have other speakers too already. These were the years of many speakers in my homes.
Mirage too have their glorious years. I also owned a pair of Mirage M-1 at one point.
Also pay three grand for them (Canadian dollars, same for the Veritas), that was a very good deal at that time too, back in 87 I believe. These ones were just too big for the home where I was living at that time, too bad. They were great for parties. :)
Lots of parties in those years, all nights long.
Then Mirage went for the Omnipolar with their OM series; Energy for the Bipolar with their Audissey series (same as Paradigm, with their Esprit and Eclipse Bipolar).
Then Paradigm produced Dipolar Surrounds...
That's a lot of Polar coolness sh*t. :cool: :) Not to mention the Tripolar. :eek:

Me, I went for the straight Monopolar. :cool: I just prefer a point or line-source.
And I still favor the Direct Radiating Monopole speaker.

Anyway, if I was you, I'll only buy speakers that I can listen at home, and that I can return, if not totally satisfied. It's just the first rule of the audio bible. Don't upset the Audio God, and yourself at the same time. ;)

Cheers my friend,

Bob
 
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gorillacooch

Enthusiast
Yes I remember the Veritas 2.8s, those were the best Energy speakers I have ever heard. Best speakers I've heard compared to any other brand at that price point. But yeah energy has gone down in quality over the years, no thanks to Klipsch. Now Klipsch is killing Mirage too. I hear the Energy RC-70s are amazing though for the money especially now that you can get them for $1000 bucks versus $2000, I can get them for $900 for a pair from authorized dealer but I considering the fact that those Mirage are $7500 pair of speakers going for 2600 is quite amazing. The reviews are outstanding, and I'm considering just buying them now to take advantage of that deal. Seeing as how they are discontinuing them.
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
Yes I remember the Veritas 2.8s, those were the best Energy speakers I have ever heard. Best speakers I've heard compared to any other brand at that price point. But yeah energy has gone down in quality over the years, no thanks to Klipsch. Now Klipsch is killing Mirage too. I hear the Energy RC-70s are amazing though for the money especially now that you can get them for $1000 bucks versus $2000, I can get them for $900 for a pair from authorized dealer but I considering the fact that those Mirage are $7500 pair of speakers going for 2600 is quite amazing. The reviews are outstanding, and I'm considering just buying them now to take advantage of that deal. Seeing as how they are discontinuing them.
The Energy RC-70 at $900 for the pair is a great deal, no doubt.

But the Mirage OMD-28 for only $2,600/pair is quite a deal too.
And of course, these are the better speakers. That's the top model from Mirage line for sure. If you got the extra dough, go for it man. :)
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
When I was shopping for speakers in the 3 to 4K price range a few years ago, I actually like the Mirage's sound better but I didn't feel comfortable with the Omni design. That was the only reason I went with the Veritas. At the time I wasn't looking at their top model, it was the one that has an 8" woofer and was listed for a little less than the 2.3i. I would think that the 7,500 OMD-28 would beat any Energy speaker in terms of overall sound quality, as long as you don't mind the Omni polar concept.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Yes I remember the Veritas 2.8s, those were the best Energy speakers I have ever heard. Best speakers I've heard compared to any other brand at that price point. But yeah energy has gone down in quality over the years, no thanks to Klipsch. Now Klipsch is killing Mirage too. I hear the Energy RC-70s are amazing though for the money especially now that you can get them for $1000 bucks versus $2000, I can get them for $900 for a pair from authorized dealer but I considering the fact that those Mirage are $7500 pair of speakers going for 2600 is quite amazing. The reviews are outstanding, and I'm considering just buying them now to take advantage of that deal. Seeing as how they are discontinuing them.
The Rc's were in production only for a few years and they never had the chance to really evolve IMO before the Klipsch aquisition of API. They were designed by head engineer John Tchilinguirian who also designed the Veritas...FWIW. Now I'm not going to compare the two...:eek: but I did read an interview with him regarding the Rc's production and these were being designed for home theather enthusiast. They would incorporated some of the traits used in the Veritas but were marketed to fill a mid level void for Energy. The Rc's were considered an improvement upon the older "C" or Connoisseur line which where replaced by the now fromerly entry level C's(...me thinks...:D). Heh...now how they would stack up against the OMD-28's, I won't comment but within thier their price class they stack up very well.
Just my 2 cents....:eek:

*Disclaimer: I won't touch anything Energy now... the new CR's are rubbish IMO but at 2500.00 for the 28's all I can say is "WOW" you got to love Klipsch...:rolleyes:
 
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gorillacooch

Enthusiast
I'm actually still planning on buying the RC-70s and replacing my Energy C-7s, going 7.2. And am definitely getting rid of my sub to upgrade to 2 Revel Concerta B120's with that wireless box. NO SUBWOOFER CABLES NEEDED, so that makes placement optimal. I love my XPA-5 amp and my rotel amp. I drive my fronts and center by biamping with the rotel and xpa5. Creates some really gorgeous sound.I have River cables that are coming in the mail soon. And also my Audio art XLR interconnects are all connected and its getting better.

I know I'm bragging but damn I'm kind of excited for this upgrade. Mirage with Energy and Revel, will make for an interesting setup. I switched from MIT Terminator 3 RCA interconnects to audio art XLRs and I can hear the separations of instruments and sound I couldn't hear in my MITs. Kind of curious how the bright sound of the Mirage and Balanced to dark sound of the Energy will match. This will make for an interesting review. I'll do a review on these soon.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I'm actually still planning on buying the RC-70s and replacing my Energy C-7s, going 7.2.
I am very curious about the street price of the RC-70. Future shop have them listed for $1,249 ea. For that kind of money, did you also consider the Paradigm Studio 60 V5?
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
As for future shop, I don't shop there unless its on sale...:)
Such as the fantastic deal on that 6190?:D About a years I ago I saw some Veritas in one of their stores, including a pair 2.4i listed for some ridiculously high prices. They disappeared quickly for some reasons.
 

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