MCACC Is Nerfing My Sub

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jhu

Enthusiast
I've got my sub in a large room with relatively bad acoustics. When I run the MCACC tuning software on VSX-45 receiver, it first tells me that the sub is too loud (i turn the knob just past 9 o' clock). After further tuning, it has the following settings:

L: -5.5 dB
C: -5 dB
R: -5 dB
SW: -11 dB.

The sub now is virtually silent for all uses. I don't really understand what these settings really mean and how the MCACC tuner is getting to these settings. To be honest, I like the settings out of the box more than what I'm hearing now. Can someone explain to me how MCACC got to this... and whether I should toss those settings out the window?

Setup: Hsu VTF-2. Hsu 3.1 setup. Pioneer Elite VSX-45.
 
F

fmw

Audioholic Ninja
The settings are what they are. They were calculated. If you want the sub louder just turn the little volume knob on the back of the unit.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
dial down sub volume to 12. Run MCACC carefully again. After it's done turn sub back up. I wont recomment more than 3 o'clock
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
... The sub now is virtually silent for all uses. I don't really understand what these settings really mean and how the MCACC tuner is getting to these settings. To be honest, I like the settings out of the box more than what I'm hearing now. Can someone explain to me how MCACC got to this... and whether I should toss those settings out the window?
I reckon MCACC sets the sub level as flat, matching the same SPL as the mains. Problem is, flat doesn't sound flat until you approach reference volumes. At more typical listening levels, we don't hear bass as strongly as we do mids. The Audyssey blog Psychoacoustics entry explains a little further:

Unlike microphones, our sensitivity to sound is different at different frequencies. Experiments have shown that we are most sensitive in the midrange (2-5 kHz) and less sensitive in the very low and very high frequencies. Thus, we can still fall asleep even with the noise of our heart pumping blood through our arteries. To make matters more complicated, the sensitivity of the ear depends not only on frequency, but also on the overall sound level. At very high sound levels, the ear response is much flatter and we are almost equally sensitive to low and high frequencies.

Audyssey Dynamic EQ is an example of an algorithm that was developed to address these differences in loudness perception. Movie and music content is mixed at very high levels in the studio where mixers and artists make their decisions about how everything should sound. But, at home we turn the volume down and this changes our perception of the sound. Bass starts to disappear and, if we are listening to a movie, the surround sound starts to diminish. These need to be adjusted so we can appreciate it at lower volumes, not just when we are cranking it.
jhu, nearly everyone experiences what you're experiencing. My Marantz receiver also sets the LFE level very conservatively, even with Dynamic EQ active. Whenever I re-run my AVR's calibration, I still have to go into the AVR's settings and bump up the sub volume by 7dB or so. It is what it is.
 
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