Looking for some advice. Thankyou!

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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
I'm looking to get a new system my i would say i am 50% movies, 30% games, and 20% music. I plan on getting either a Hsu or rythmik sub. the room is 10x20.

I think Ive narrowed my choices down to 2 options

Option #1.
Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 SE L/R
Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 Se Center
with either the HTM-200 SE or CMT-340 SE in surround duty.

Option #2
NHT Absolute Tower L/R
Either the Absolute Center or the TwoC center(im leaning towards the TwoC)
Absolute Wall for surrounds.

Which option would you say gives me more for my money? Do you have any different suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Ive been following this site for a while now and decided to finally join I just have to say this place kicks A$$.

What do you think
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
It boils down to what sounds best to YOU, but I will say this.

Your center should timbre match your main (front right/left) speakers, at least. For music, it's nice that the surrounds match as well.

That means it should be of the same manufacturer and line as your mains.

If you haven't heard these, be aware of any return policies your vendor has. ...and save all packing material for a few weeks.
 
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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
Ya my plan was to get the Absolute Tower and CMT-340 SE in to see how i like them but i was wanting to see if i was wasting my time with one or the other and if any of you had any other suggestions for me
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
No, I certainly wouldn't say you're "wasting your time" with either of those choices.

I happen to really like Ascend's speakers myself. I think the SEAS tweeter that they use in their SE speakers is really a cut above for its price point. But that doesn't mean they're going to be everyone's favorite, or even the best choice in certain rooms or setups or placement situations.

I very much support your plan to bring in just a pair of speakers from each company, audition them at home, keep the ones you like better, return the other pair, and then purchase the rest of the matching system. That really is the best way to make sure the speakers you go with are to your personal taste!

Aperion Audio might be another good option to consider. They actually pay shipping BOTH ways if you decide to return their speakers! So it's truly no risk to add them to the mix. The Intimus 5 series would fit your price range. That series has a very good center speaker, and I really like that Aperion offers a bi-pole surround speaker. I'm a fan of using diffuse surround speakers, myself. And it's hard to find bi-pole or di-pole speakers at this price point.

Anywho, those are three really good options! I doubt you'd be disappointed by any of them, to be honest. But an in home audition is certainly the best way to be sure you're getting what YOU like best.

Hope that helps!
 
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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
I had considered the aperion intimus system but i know they just recently did a redesign so i wasnt sure what the quality of the speakers would be like now.
 
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marleysaid

Audiophyte
Throwing my hat in the ring

Hi guys,

I just got a pair of SVS MBS-02s (on clearance for $399, free shipping), and I am amazed. I auditioned the latest Paradigm Studio 20s a few months ago, and I'd wager the MBS-02 are their equal if not better. I took a leap of faith when I saw them on clearance - I think they were originally closer to $1k - and am really happy with this purchase. I'm rockin' to some Jeff Beck right now and it sounds amazing - no need for a sub for listening to music.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I had considered the aperion intimus system but i know they just recently did a redesign so i wasnt sure what the quality of the speakers would be like now.
It would probably be an improvement. ;) You are talking all the right brands so I think you got this figured out. Ascends are fantastic speakers.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
Your center should timbre match your main (front right/left) speakers, at least. For music, it's nice that the surrounds match as well.

That means it should be of the same manufacturer and line as your mains.

If you haven't heard these, be aware of any return policies your vendor has. ...and save all packing material for a few weeks.
If you look at my setup, you'll see I didn't do what mark is saying to do. And it was a bad choice. You should defly timbre match your fronts, especially for surround material. When I do over, I'm defly not going to make that mistake again.
 
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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
Well thanks everyone for the suggestions so far!:D This forum is one of the best ive had the pleasure of joining by far. Just a wealth of information and kindness from all of you
 
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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
I was also kind of fishing for your opinions between the nht absolute tower, ascend cmt-340 se and aperion intimus 5t if any of you have ever heard either of these against the other and what your personal thoughts were of each speaker.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
I haven't heard the nht Absolute towers. But I've heard the Ascend CMT-340SE and the Aperion 5 series.

I like the Ascend speakers the most, personally. That SEAS tweeter is really excellent. A real cut above the competition in my book. The CMT-340SE excel at loud, clear, transparent playback. They're best suited to a slightly larger room size though. They have very wide dispersion that can be a tiny bit of an issue in a small, untreated room that would create strong side wall reflections. So a small room needs acoustic treatments for the CMT-340SE to be a good choice, IMO. In a larger room though, they are expansive, clear and excellent. You could almost get away with not using a sub for more casual music playback, but I would certainly want to pair them with a great subwoofer (or 2 or 4 ;) ) for the best overall system performance. They're fairly large spreakers, but they're still technically bookshelf speakers after all. They don't troll the depths of deep bass. The matching stands only make them look like towers ;)

I'm also a fan of the CMT-340SE Center. Despite its W-T-W layout, Dave's custom work on the crossover seems to mitigate most of the bad effects of laying out the drivers that way. It's still not perfect for off axis listeners. But for the primary seat, it's a darn good center.

The Intimus 5 series speakers are also very good. They're a bit forward of neutral in the midrange, lending them a sort of "powerful" type of character. The tweeter is good, but not great. It can get a little strident in the "screechy" 6-8kHz range, and really cranking up the volume can start to make it sound a little "crunchy" and a touch harsh. I'd say the bass is maybe the most impressive thing in the towers. It's punchy, tight, tactile and impressive sounding. It doesn't delve super deep. Again, I'd definitely want a great subwoofer to match with them. But there's more of an obvious impact in the bass vs. the Ascend speakers. Basically, the Ascend are more neutral and strictly accurate. The Aperions have a little more character to them, but it's almost all pleasing. So there's definitely room for personal taste to come into play. I happen to pay more attention to the tweeter, so the Ascends appeal more to me, personally. But someone who wants a punchier bass line and a little more obvious detail and forwardness in the midrange would probably like the Aperions better.

I really like the Aperion Center though. The vertical tweeter-midrange driver layout means a more uniform projection of sound, especially for off axis listeners. And that little bit of forwardness in the midrange really brings voices and dialogue out so that they're clear and highly intelligible.

Not an easy call. And that's without me even throwing the nht speakers into the comparison! I still really like the idea of an in home audition. But I get not wanting to potentially pay return shipping and have to deal with returns :eek: I'll say that you likely wouldn't be disappointed with any of them. But there ARE audible differences, so personal taste is not a moot point in this case. And your room and placement of the speakers and seat will have a large impact as well. So one of these choices might really stand out as being better for your particular room. Awfully tough to tell that without hearing them in that room though.

Regardless, I hope you'll come back and share your experiences, thoughts and final decision with us! So many people just disappear after they buy. Half the fun is bragging about your new toys, isn't it?

:p
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
I have not heard any but the Intimus. I can tell you all of Aperion's products are top notch and excellent value. I don't know how they stack up to NHT or Ascend.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
All three make a very good product for the price. Both NHT and Aperion have 30 day satisfaction guarantees and pay round trip shipping on returns! Don't short yourself on audition time. For example, on first listen, you might be attracted to stronger bass from one pair, but after a week you may reconsider and feel that the bass is overemphasized on that speaker.
Also be sure to listen at various sound levels. I have listened to speakers that essentially had loudness contour built in to them. They sounded great at low levels, but both bass and treble became obnoxious at higher levels. Other speakers might lose their composure or run up against amp limitations at higher levels. Mainly listen at the volume you like, but consider if you might move them to a larger or smaller room sometime.

Unfortunately Ascend will make you pay shipping both ways. This will add up to some serious money. I'm pretty sure they used to pay one way and you would only be out for return shipping. It is disappointing to see them going backwards!
You may just want to order mains for the comparison, then fill out the system after you decide.

From Ascend return policy:
Items returned to us must be shipped pre-paid by the sender. Ascend Acoustics will not accept C.O.D. returns, nor will we be liable for any carrier charges, import taxes or duty associated with the return of any product. Shipping charges paid at the time of purchase will not be refunded. Please allow 5 to 10 business days from the day we receive the return until the refund is processed.
Verify that all three are in stock before you order. You don't want to be in a situation where you have to return one set of speakers before another, back-ordered, set arrives.
 
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AlexMcf

Audiophyte
ya unfortunately it looks like the ascend is out of the picture the wife said they looked ugly:( I told her they would look better in person;) but she wasnt budging. I'd say its for the best though since shipping must be paid both ways. Looks like its down to the intumus and the nht absolute, unlees anyone else has other suggestions?
 
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