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Ok, this is just personal whining. The city I live in has a long term agreement with a neighboring twp to share a police station and dispatch (seperate police departments). City felt they were unjustly supporting the twp usage (about 4 to 1) and requested renegotiation. For three years they requested renegotiated financial arrangement, and were virtually ignored. Two outgoing council members voted to close the police station and explore other options. Besides the fact it was putting the cart before the horse, they didn't really force the issue of negotiating a new contract. This got my wife irked enough to run for council and won. One of the outgoing council members formally established her as lead negotiator and at my wife's suggestion set a negotiating deadline. On Friday before the twp trustee vote, they had an agreement in principal to set the cost sharing at 40/60. Tuesday the twp turned down a 45/55 sharing agreement (huh, that wasn't even on the table). At the city council meeting the following week, it was made clear the date was come and gone, the city is moving ahead with alternate plans. Twp police chief is given way too much time (2 hours) to explain why 45/55 is more then fair and anybody should be willing to accept that number. Later, reality sets in with two Twp Tustees, beginning to understand, instead of 36k annual increase they are looking at 200k annual increase plus in my estimation over 1,000,000 in start up costs. They force their twp to put it on their next agenda, and have a 4-3 vote already to go. Someone in the twp (suspicion of who, is scary) makes life threatening phone calls (traced to a twp police officer, but accepted that it wasn't him), and slashing auto tires with notes left suggesting the proper vote. The vote ends up going 3-4, because one person was intimidated into changing their vote. All this over a lousy $36k, that is now $200k! Our sons and daughters are in Iraq fighting terrorism, and yet we have to deal with it from local residents too. State prosecuter, local court, FBI, and U.S. Attorney General are all now involved. We can only hope they will figure out who did it, and prosecute, but fear the person was smart enough to not leave any trails. The approach the city council (and city residents) took, was to use legal and appropriate means to affect the decision. Because of this crap (and some other suspicious activity), I've had to put up additional security lighting, and install cameras around my house. Our police chief is stepping up activity around our house. Tomorrow the stuff is really going to hit the fan as the local rag is publishing several articles and an interview with one of the Trustees exposing all the details of how much this person is really going to cost their taxpayers.

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Buckeyefan 1

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Sounds to me like you already know who this character is. That type of news must do wonders for home resale values.

How many residents in each town?
 
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Buckeyefan 1 said:
Sounds to me like you already know who this character is. That type of news must do wonders for home resale values.

How many residents in each town?
With nothing moving at all, this type of news doesn't help. City has 4,000 residents, trouble twp has 13,000, good twp has 22,000. Everybody has a suspicion who the culprit is, and it's scary. What's unbelievable is how many people are falling for the lies. One resident publically stated it was cheaper for them to pay 100% then to pay an additional 10%!!!!!!!!! Another resident made a point the twp should demand an accounting of the bills and budget. HELLO YOUR TWP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACCOUNTING. Someone I've never seen before publically said the USDA would give the twp 2,000,000 to set up their own police station, and the form was a simple one page grant application. It goes on, and on, and on. If they want to stay stupid and not understand how much this is truly going to cost them, it doesn't really matter to the city, we have a less expesive solution anyway, but resorting to violence to sway an elected officials vote... In the city's case, it's essentially a volunteer job. Twp trustees are part time paid positions, but not enough to justify putting up with terrorist violence. If it's in fact the person everybody believes it is, he doesn't even live close by. We're trying to rationalize his motivation, and it doesn't make sense.
 
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kia303 said:
Welcome to politics!
So true. And even more so, I've found, in a small community. I came to a little hamlet of 6,800 from San Diego. The difference? Excess graft by the slick and slimey has been replaced by the undue influence of the relatively few crazies, agenda dealers, and otherwise mouth-breathing yokels whose families bought property here a hundred years ago when it was 50 cents/acre dairy farmland.

But it's interesting, yes?! And educational. You can't beat that. ;)
 
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Nothing wrong with keeping land in the family. My family has several hundred acres worth millions of dollars but none will be deeded outside the family.
 
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rjbudz said:
So true. And even more so, I've found, in a small community. I came to a little hamlet of 6,800 from San Diego. The difference? Excess graft by the slick and slimey has been replaced by the undue influence of the relatively few crazies, agenda dealers, and otherwise mouth-breathing yokels whose families bought property here a hundred years ago when it was 50 cents/acre dairy farmland.

But it's interesting, yes?! And educational. You can't beat that. ;)
The area's political history is wild. The local Republican club members were at best a right wing radical group. they controlled the twp to the north, while the twp to the south is a radical democratic union controlled govt. The city in the middle had a tendency to be just the mouth-breathing yokels {what a great line :)}. Twp to the north had a Democrat elected, who was really an independent republican. The local rag was started by the republican club to embarrass him. It has since grown up and won several awards for it's articles, although still attempts to spin things. Twp to the north has grown up, and other then a few citizens and couple long term (and unfortunately powerful) employees, has done a great job. The new city council is probably the best the area has seen. The mayor has always had great vision, but unable to execute his ideas and plans. I have a lot of respect for my wife's reasonableness and big picture capabilities, the other person elected with her is a very reasonable attorney, one current member is an accountant, and the last council member is a teacher. None of this group belongs to either side. The twp to the south is about to have some highly charge political battles. Their area is growing and attracting some new (unsuspecting?) blood, and they are becoming boisterous with their intolerance of the crap.
 
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fergusonv said:
Nothing wrong with keeping land in the family. My family has several hundred acres worth millions of dollars but none will be deeded outside the family.
I used an unfortunate phrase. I was being somewhat jocular with that turn of words, and generalizing. Pardon me, please. You are certainly correct. There is nothing wrong with keeping land in the family.

I mentioned it because there are a few (real estate) empowered people in this small and rural town I live in who fit that description. Several of them have no more than a 5th grade education, have never been to a dentist, pick their ears with the ends of spoons in restaurants, and really are mouth-breathers. That is not a pretty sight. :( They would have nothing except for the foresight their ancestors had in acquiring land. These guys, by the way, give real country hicks a bad name. ;)

(I'm sure glad there is only one other guy on this forum from my town, and he feels as I do. :) Talk about opening oneself up for threats. :eek: )
 
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rjbudz said:
(I'm sure glad there is only one other guy on this forum from my town, and he feels as I do. :) Talk about opening oneself up for threats. :eek: )
Uh... That rock through your window with the note attached...can I have my rock back?
 
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