LCD RPTV Draw Backs?

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Redbone

Audioholic
Recently I upgraded my main TV with a new 34" Direct View CRT, though the picture is exceptionally good I am not impressed with the size or new 16:9 format and after a week of evaluation it seems I must go to something bigger to satisfy me and the misses.

I know at this point that a 42" would suffice nicely but I do not know what format. I thought Plasma would be the buy all end all for my situation but apparently plasma has drawbacks as well- and for that kind for money I would rather not take the risk.

I use the TV in my main viewing room, sitting approximately 10ft away. Watch DVD movies about 20% of the time and 80% Digital Cable and HDTV. The room is fairly bright with bay windows in the daytime.

I am currently considering a Sony Grand Wega LCD DLP- In the showrooms they look very impressive, but I am wondering what drawbacks I will encounter in my home with this type of format, Rainbow, screen door, no blacker than black, grainy analog channels through my HD box etc...

Anyhelp in making this decision would be greatly appreciated-
 
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Laserjock

Audiophyte
You will not have issues with rainbows on LCD...unlike DLP there is no color wheel to cause that. The blacks may not ever get to "true" black, but I have seen the 60XS955 tweaked and running Van Helsing and it was absolutely spectacular.

At 10 feet you should not see significant screen door effects...but only your eyes will tell you that...I recommend a lot of time in front of one at your local B&M.

Good luck!

LJ
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
First know that DLP & LCD are two different technologies. DLP uses a single mirrored chip that reflect light through a color wheel while LCD uses 3 chips that light passes through, one for red, green, and blue.

DLP can cause the rainbow effect, but if you don't see it, then don't worry about it. DLP typically has a higher contrast ratio than LCD and produces much better black levels.
LCD is typically a little less expensive, though this is equaling out but it never can have a rainbow effect.

Drawback to both?

Both types are little projectors mounted inside a cabinet. Projectors have bulbs and bulbs burn out. Sometimes they last several thousand hours, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they blow out after 1,000 hours or less than half a year after you get it if you watch regularly.
Replacement bulb: $300-$500

Do some math and ask about guarantees and bulb life PRIOR to puchasing a rear format projection televsion over plasma. I got a plasma because I didn't want to deal with bulbs and the life of the plasma is about 10 years. I will replace it by then, or delegate it elsewhere in my home.

Read this article http://www.projectorcentral.com/replacement_lamps.htm
It was written for overhead front projectors, but also applies to rear projection technology and is something to consider before you buy.

There are 4 dominating THIN big screen technologies (and a few smaller ones) - Rear screen projection LCD, rear screen projection DLP, plasma flat panel display, and LCD flat panel display. If given the budget, many people would get the LCD flat panel display from Sharp which is 45 inches.

The king of quality is still the big rear projection CRT display though. If you have the room for it, you get a better price and higher quality with no bulbs to replace and about a ten year life span - or more - from rear projection CRT.

Lots of choices, lots of advantages and disadvantages to each - the choice is, in the end, your to make based on knowing the quality, size, initial cost, and cost to maintain factors.
 
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Laserjock

Audiophyte
True...lamps can go prematurely...but most of the B&Ms are offering lamp coverage under the extended warranties...and I would not spend $3K+ for any TV these days without the EW.
 
R

Redbone

Audioholic
Thanks that is valuable information. I looked at a Sony 50KPF that was uper impressive, maybe I will go this route?
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
As I said above and the user following up said: Lamps

Replacement lamp online pricing here: http://pcworld.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=2460689
Life - up to 2,000 hours, or less than 1 year with fairly heavy regular use. If that long.

Cost: About 200 bucks a pop.

Expect to spend an additional MINIMUM of about $2,000.00 on this projector over the next ten years.

So, look at warranties and find out if they cover the lamp and how much they are for the warranties. You won't be upset with the display I am sure. But, there are some 50 inch plasmas around 5 grand as well that can hang on your wall and last just as long without needing replacement bulbs. As I said before though - that final choice is up to you.
 
RLA

RLA

Audioholic Chief
The Sony GW is an ok looking set but you can do better for you video dollar
the new Hitachi Ultra Vison 60V710,50V710 42V710 is a big step up
it just started shipping a couple of weeks ago Another very impressive
50 and 60" display is the new Infocus DLP that you can hang on the wall like a plasma They looked very nice at CES even on a bright convention floor
Epson showed a 3 pannel LCD TV that had a claimed 8000:1 contrast ratio
it looked very nice as well but I dont know when its going to start shipping
Compairing the Sony to these sets it is very Ho Hummm ;)
 
R

Redbone

Audioholic
THX I just bought the Sony KDF-50WE655 and the picture looks very, very good- though I know Sony has not been known as the leader in RPTV technology, so your statement intrigues me. When I bought the Sony the only other brand LCD RPTV on the floor was Panasonic which in my opinion the Sony looked much better than.

If you can tell me in your honest opinion that the Hitachi offers a much better picture- I would be very interested in pursuing it?

I have 30 days to dump my Sony.
 
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SacKen

Enthusiast
I have the Sony 60" Rear Proj LCD and love it. No complaints at all. I don't even understand the whole "blacks aren't really black" complaint. Everything looks black to me and shades of gray are fine as well. And the viewing angle is phenomenal compared to any other big screen TV I have seen (a big reason why I chose it). If this TV is "ho humm" the others must be truly spectacular! :rolleyes:
 
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SacKen

Enthusiast
Oh, and for TV I still have my plain 'ol analog cable and the picture looks great. Text is clear a legible. Comcast broadcasts the non-premium HD channels free-and-clear, so with the built-in tuners all I had to do was plug the cable directly into the TV and I get all of my analog, plus the HD and digital audio channels. Saved me the $10/month and $25 service call charge for their HD converter. I plan to turn in my existing cable box and save another $5/month.

From the sounds of it, I'll have to bank the savings to buy new bulbs. But I did get the extended service plan. With my luck, the bulb will go out the day after it expires. :p
 
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Redbone

Audioholic
I really must see the Hitachi then because if the Sony is Ho Hum then the Hitachi must be awesome. I think the picture on the 50" Sony looks good, better than ho hum, Though if it is not in its vivid mode the Sony can look a little washed out. Seems really hard to calibrate contrast??
 
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chastoo

Audiophyte
Hitachi 50V715

I just got a Hit 50V715 a few weeks ago and and very happy with it so far. The 715 is the same as the 710 except has a darker titantium colored cabinet. The MSRP is $3000 but can be had for around $2600-2700 on sale or with a little negotiating. Only problem so far is a little red push can be adjusted away. Tuner works well; I am able to receive a couple of channels OTA with just a set of rabbit ears. Very nice OSD and remote is very cool. Just don't get the matching stand; the shelves are way to short and shallow to be used to hold any component gear.
 
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