LCD response time and sports

[Buckeyefan 1]

What is everyones opinion of LCD diplays and sports? I've got a 37" Olevia LCD with an 8ms response time, and it's plain as day to see the pixelation during sporting events. It's especially easy to see the pixelation with certain sports such as tennis and golf. The golf swing is horrible - it's almost as if there's a strobe light on the golfer.

This is one area where i would give plasma a "one up" on LCD. I've not noticed it on my pc's 20" LCD (also Olevia). And yes, I'm sitting plenty far away from the screen. I'd say 9 feet with a 37" set.

 

[MDS]

I think the issue has a lot to do with each particular person's perception. Now I still haven't gotten around to upgrading my TV but when I do I am leaning toward LCD rear projection or maybe even flat panel LCD.

I do have multiple LCD computer monitors and I don't notice any pixelation at all. Maybe I am just the type of person that doesn't really notice video artifacts where others easily do; just as some people easily notice the 'rainbow effect' on DLP monitors whereas I have yet to see one.

Audio is another story for me. Take anything with a rhythmic pattern, like say a celing fan that clicks on each rotation, and my brain instantly picks up on the pattern and it drives me crazy!

 

[Hi Ho]

I think you are confusing two different issues. Pixelation is not caused by slow response times. It is caused by poor compression of the source material. The scaler in the TV can introduce pixelation as well.

A slow response time would produce a motion blur effect, not a strobe effect.

It is also true that perception varies by person. I am not fond of plasma displays because when I look at them I see an extremely annoying and constant flicker.

I haven't noticed any motion blur problems on LCD sets from Sony, Samsung, or Mitsubishi, all of which we carry at work and I see every day. I have not had any issues with my 20" Westinghouse LCD computer monitor. I play a lot of FPS games and have not noticed any motion blur.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I think you are confusing two different issues. Pixelation is not caused by slow response times. It is caused by poor compression of the source material. The scaler in the TV can introduce pixelation as well.

A slow response time would produce a motion blur effect, not a strobe effect.

It is also true that perception varies by person. I am not fond of plasma displays because when I look at them I see an extremely annoying and constant flicker.

I haven't noticed any motion blur problems on LCD sets from Sony, Samsung, or Mitsubishi, all of which we carry at work and I see every day.

I think I'm calling it pixelation rather than blur effect. It's defintely a blur effect - similar to draggin the cursor slowly across the LCD monitor on our pc. Drag your cursor really slow across the monitor on a white background. You'll see some motion blur.

The picture during HD programming is rock solid crystal clear for the most part, but with sports, you can see the blur effect quite easily. It's probably just me being used to CRT sets.

I guess I'll have to take the good with the bad. One thing about LCD's is the outstanding contrast and brightness. I've not seen many plasma screens equal the contrast and brightness levels in many LCD's. I just wish there wasn't the motion blur present in these 8ms LCD flatscreens.

 

[MDS]

I think you are confusing two different issues. Pixelation is not caused by slow response times. It is caused by poor compression of the source material. The scaler in the TV can introduce pixelation as well.

An insufficient data rate will also cause pixelation. When you are watching an OnDemand movie from the cable company and it exhibits pixelation it is not caused by the response time or poor compression - its usual cause is interruption in the data rate due to any number of factors (although they usually blame the weather - despite the fact that they advertise that cable is better than satellite because satellite goes out when the weather is poor. )

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

An insufficient data rate will also cause pixelation. When you are watching an OnDemand movie from the cable company and it exhibits pixelation it is not caused by the response time or poor compression - its usual cause is interruption in the data rate due to any number of factors (although they usually blame the weather - despite the fact that they advertise that cable is better than satellite because satellite goes out when the weather is poor. )

I did notice a better picture via OTA HD compared with Time Warner HD. The colors were much more crisp, and blur effect was a bit worse with cable. My biggest hang up is my set's scaler doesn't work with OTA HD, only SD OTA. You cannot stretch the screen on a true HD OTA signal for some reason. I blame Olevia for that error.

 

[billnchristy]

For the few seconds I had an OTA HD antenna I noticed the same thing with the Samsung. The set would say it was 16:9 and it would display a little wider than 4:3 but still have bars on either side...kind of like on the HD channels when they show 4:3 commercials.

I havent had any issues with blurring with the Samsung at all.