LCD prices dropping at the end of the yr???

Capt.Ron

Capt.Ron

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I was talking to a friend and he told me that someone informed him that we would see a really big drop in LCD prices at or around the first of the yr.
Anyone heard this?
If So why would we see this? Something new coming out to drive those prices?
 
Patrick_Wolf

Patrick_Wolf

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I think it something to do with a surplus of TV's. Sales didn't do so well this year and they want to sell off excess stock before next year's models start rolling out.

I'd like my next TV to be an LED. I read they will be cheaper as well in 2011, being a relatively minor increase in price over their CCFL counterparts. LED's will probably replace CCFL eventually anyway. I mean I don't see any reason why they wouldn't.
 
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clouso

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I was talking to a friend and he told me that someone informed him that we would see a really big drop in LCD prices at or around the first of the yr.
Anyone heard this?
If So why would we see this? Something new coming out to drive those prices?
Lcd's hummm..let me think..maybe cause they are realizing plasma is far better in every area of PQ and they tell themselves...''wow i think plasma is getting up there''...:eek:...should we get our ridiculous over advertised lcd's led to a lower price??..uhh?...ok in fact plasma is better in most aspects.. black levels....better off angle viewing better colour accuracy and better shadow details!...yeah even some of my friends who have internet and a pc dont wanna read and educate themselves.
 
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clouso

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And btw most folks from here and audioholics helped me and tought me to educate myself and i did...plasma rocks...yes i was all lcd and led before.. i owned a toshiba led wich the ''boolming issue'' made me sick!... and then a pioneer elite kuro....well yes i had a 72'' toshiba dlp wich gave me a really pleasant time but since i know plasma and the PQ i would never come back!:D...plasma rules and some dont undersatd it yet thats all and its ok with me...soon they will understand...or i mean see!..;)
 
Capt.Ron

Capt.Ron

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HMMM I take it that LCD is a 4 letter word with some.
I'm not quite the Video Nazi. Please, no one take that personally, it's a term me and all my friends use for folks who are ultra picky about any certain product or topic. I'm a tequila Nazi......don't drink the cheap stuff, and a coffee Nazi. 100% Kona is all I'll brew. Fresh ground of course!!
While I would like to upgrade my TV stable, right now all I have is a very old 60" Panasonic rear projection, A tube type non digital Phillips and a fairly new Visio 42" LCD 1080P.
For me the Visio is totally awesome. I'm sure there's better and I might go that route for my new living room.
That's why I'm here, to find out from the informed.:cool:
Oh I left out my 20yr old RCA non remote twist knob in my garage. Still works like a champ!!:D
 
Patrick_Wolf

Patrick_Wolf

Audioholic
Yeah, plasma may top the PQ meter, but there's other factors that might play into a purchase. For me LED's energy efficiency, low heat output, and fast response time are all pluses. And plasma's are all 42"+. Too big for my setup. And the Panasonic black level degradation of last year's plasma's is rather disconcerting.
 
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alphaiii

Audioholic General
I'm a tequila Nazi......don't drink the cheap stuff...
I'm with you on that!

Among my favorites are Don Julio Reposado, El Tesoro Platinum, Cuervo Reserva de la Familia Platino (never thought I'd be a fan of any Cuervo products), Don Julio Blanco...

Not big on anejos though...


OK, back on topic...
 
Capt.Ron

Capt.Ron

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I'm with you on that!

Among my favorites are Don Julio Reposado, El Tesoro Platinum, Cuervo Reserva de la Familia Platino (never thought I'd be a fan of any Cuervo products), Don Julio Blanco...

Not big on anejos though...


OK, back on topic...
Gonna have to try that Cuervo Reserva........stopped using Cuervo products yrs ago.
Don Julio, Hacienda De Chihuahua and El Jimador are at the top of my list. I'll settle for Patron if I can't get those.
A really cheap but good mixer brand is Agavales gold.
Comes in a plastic 1.75 liter bottle, is 1/2 the price of Cuervo Gold and is 100% Agave.
Had a clerk at Majestic liquor challenge me to bring it back if I didn't like it. We sat down and taste tested it with my favorites. While it wasn't as good as those it was really smooth for super cheap booze. Didn't make anyone turn their nose when tasting. I use it for Margaritas and for shots when a roomful wants to indulge.


Oh uh......we talkin about TVs. I had a black & white GE back in 1980 when I first got married.:eek:
My whole family watched the first moon landing on that thing when I was in elementary school!!
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Yeah, plasma may top the PQ meter, but there's other factors that might play into a purchase. For me LED's energy efficiency, low heat output, and fast response time are all pluses. And plasma's are all 42"+. Too big for my setup. And the Panasonic black level degradation of last year's plasma's is rather disconcerting.
Sorry man, with all due respect, I think there are some important misunderstandings going on.

I've never owned an LCD or plasma. Or any flat panel for that matter.

Black level degradation, whether it's the floating blacks or the rising blacks, is essentially a non-issue for almost everybody. Do you watch in a cave, have the panel calibrated whether professionally or with the right equipment? Even a plasma with a rising black issue will still blow away the blacks of most LCDs.

Energy is another issue. Yes, LCDs use less energy. But, it's closer than you think. LCDs always have the backlight on, and therefore are always using the "max" power consumption. A plasma will only use the max consumption when the screen is brightest 100 IRE white.

Once the displays are actually calibrated, and not blue shifted dynamic blinding, the plasma's energy consumption drops further. Again with LCD, it remains the same.

As for response times, don't even go there!! Plasma cells only suffer the latency of an electrical current exciting the gas inside them.
 
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clouso

Banned
What i meant is also that im getting tired and sick of going in stores and hear the sellers there say to customers!...''oh yes led lcd's are much better then plasma's in a room with lights and oh yes lcd's are better for playing video games blah blag blah''....liars!.. i never heard a seller tell a costumer yes plasma has better blacks yes plasma has better coulor accuracy yes plasma is better for video games yes a movie on a plasma will look like a movie not a cartoon!....all people see in stores are the brightness of lcd's and they go...''wow what a ''clear'' image''...lmao...brightness doesnt have anything to do with PICTURE QUALITY!...torch mode is the worst and they think its looking good...:rolleyes:...nothing personal and no lcd's doesnt mean the 4 letter word to me...they are a good thing for certain applications i have a 26'' pc screen and i like it..:p... but i will never have one in my home theater again.;)
 
Patrick_Wolf

Patrick_Wolf

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Sorry man, with all due respect, I think there are some important misunderstandings going on.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. Since 42" is too big for me, plasma's are ruled out anyhow. So my comparisons were geared more toward LCD's. Specifically the response time which is generally lower on the better LED displays.

Once you get into the larger displays where you start comparing local-dimming vs. plasma then you have an argument.
 
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