klipsch kw 120 sub(s) vs pb 13 ultra

[playaqqbq]

hello fellow members!

does anyone know whether a single pb13 ultra is better that a single kw120 and as I suspect (it probably is ) would it be better than 2 KW120?
I know the price range is different but anyway...
and 2 pb12 nsd vs 1 (and 2) kw120

thanks

 

[afterlife2]

SVS has more power.
Frequency Response/Acoustic Data:

**Frequency response graph does not denote maximum output capability.

• 2-meter ground plane away from reflective structures (quasi-anechoic)
• 20 Hz Mode: 19-150 Hz +/- 3 dB
• 16 Hz Mode: 16-150 Hz +/- 3 dB
• Sealed Mode: 26-150 Hz +/- 3 dB

Subwoofer Specs:

• Cabinet Dimensions: 22" (H) x 20.5" (W) x 27" (D)
• Overall Dimensions: 22.5" (H) x 20.5" (W) x 29.9" (D) (includes feet, grille, amplifier)
• Weight (unboxed): 155 pounds
• Shipped Dimensions: 36" (H) x 25" (W) x 40" (D)
• Shipped Weight: 188 pounds
• Rigid and braced Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF) cabinet
• Black gloss or full veneer black oak finish
• Front-firing driver
• Front-firing triple 3.5" high-flow flared ports
• Dense foam port blockers (3) included
• Variable 20 Hz, 16 Hz and Sealed tuning modes
• Protective non-resonant steel mesh grille

Driver Specs:

• SVS 13.5” extreme performance underhung Ultra driver
• SVS custom-tooled die-cast aluminum basket
• Flat-wire, 3” diameter, high-power, high-temp, 8-layer, aluminum voice coil
• Polyimide impregnated fiberglass former/bobbin
• Dual 9", composite layered, linear roll, extreme excursion spiders
• Integrated tinsel leads
• Nickel-plated high-tension spring terminals
• Proprietary injection molded gasket and parabolic SBR extreme-excursion surround
• Composite pulp/fiberglass press layered cone with stitched surround
• Low carbon 1008 steel components, electrophoresis black plating
• Finite Element Analysis (FEA)-optimized underhung motor structure for the lowest possible distortion
• Copper shorting sleeve reduces gap induction and distortion, and enhances thermal conductivity
• Dual Genox 8H/Y-35 high grade ferrite magnets
• Oversized pole vent for greater cooling and low noise

Amp Specs:

• STA-1000D Sledge with 1000 watts RMS continuous power (3600 watts peak dynamic power)
• High efficiency cool-running Class D switching topology
• Detachable power cord with main power switch and ceramic fuse
• RoHS compliant, lead-free construction and world-wide safety certifications
• Auto-On / On switch with "green" standby mode
• Stereo line-level RCA and balanced (XLR) input/output connections
• Normal and Hi input voltage switch
• Customized EQ and DSP limiter settings specifically for the PB13-Ultra
• Variable tuning with 20Hz, 16Hz, and Sealed settings to match subwoofer port settings
• Fully adjustable (frequency and slope) phase-correct speaker/sub digital crossover
• Intelligent Feature Control (IFC) with bright LCD display
• Two (2) digital PEQs with adjustable frequency, cut/boost, and Q values
• Room gain compensation control with adjustable frequency and slope
• Adjustable digital delay on main speaker line-level outputs to time-align the speakers and subs

[h=5]KW-120-THX passive subwoofer:[/h]

• frequency response 20-200 Hz (±3dB)
• 12" long-throw Ceremetalic™ woofer with cast aluminum frame and massive 240 oz. magnet structure
• bass-reflex cabinet with front-firing slot port
• Galaxy Black finish with black anodized aluminum fascia
• impedance: 8 ohms
• NL2 SpeakOn™ inputs for secure amplifier connection
• 20 foot THX Ultra certified speaker cable with NL2 SpeakOn connectors included
• dimensions: 17-3/4"W x 20-1/4"H x 17-3/4"D (with grille attached)
• weight: 80 lbs.
• warranty: 5 years

[h=5]KA-1000-THX amplifier:[/h]

• 500 watts (mono) RMS into 8 ohms (1000 watts into 4 ohms when driving two subwoofers)
• can support two high performance KW-120-THX subs for full THX Ultra2 certified sound
• frequency response 20-1,000 Hz (+0/-3 dB)
• high-efficiency Class D amplifier with massive toroidal power supply transformer
• continuously variable 40-120 Hz low-pass crossover
• 2 gold-plated RCA line-level/LFE inputs
• 2 gold-plated RCA line-level outputs (pass through)
• THX on/off and boundary gain compensation on/off switches
• adjustable phase control from 0 to 180 degrees
• signal-sensing auto on/off mode
• two professional-style SpeakOn NL2 speaker outputs
• machined black aluminum face plate and knobs
• detachable AC power cord
• 17-1/2"W x 4-3/4"H x 12-1/4"D
• weight: 27 lbs.

 

[vardo]

PB-13 ultra is a fantastic sub. But expensive (justifiably so).
Klipsch sub is also pretty expensive. I would think a SVS PB-13 would destroy the Klipsch, but don't
know about dual Klipsch. I't all what you are after (depth, output), and size of your listening area
I haven't heard these subs, but have read so much about them.

I personally prefer the dual subs, and probably get dual SVS pb12 nsd for $760 shipped.
Or (I'll throw this in because I'm a fanboy of PSA, have 3 XV-15's) get dual XV-15's for $800ea less 5 percent (shipped).

SVS PB12-NSD Subwoofer Review | Audioholics

Doesn't really answer your question does it?...just my opinion.

vardo

 

[playaqqbq]

thank you for your answers! it seems that svs is the best deal...in all categories...is it truly so good???

 

[Steve81]

I suspect a single PB13U would hold its own reasonably well against a pair of KW120s, at least in terms of raw power.

Klipsch rates the maximum acoustic output of the KW120 as 130dB @ 30Hz, 122dB @ 20Hz, and 112dB @ 15Hz, all at 1 meter, corner loaded. Conversely, the PB13U in 20Hz tune can deliver 115.5dB @ 32hz, 110.6dB @ 20Hz, and 97.4dB @ 16Hz at 2 meters, ground plane, in Josh Ricci's CEA 2010 burst testing. To convert 2 meters ground plane to 1 meter corner loaded, you'd have to add 18dB to the SVS's numbers, to get 133.5dB @ 32Hz, 128.6dB @ 20Hz, and 115.4dB @ 16Hz.