Kappa Perffect hooked up to Ep2500 and O audio Bash!

[Inertia]

Alright guys. Since I am going to have another kapa perfect sub built for me I decided to unhook the EP2500 and hook up an O audio Bash plate amp.... Now I don't turn the gain on either amps past 1/2 but I honestly can tell no difference between the two amps whatsoever. It may be because I don't want to put my sub into clipping. Anyway this sub sounds amazing regardless of amp, hits super deep and gets really loud without being boomy at all.

I am gonna stick with the O Audio for this sub and the next one built since I can't tell the difference and I don't need to buy a separate subsonic filter. Couple questions...

1: Should I run the subsonic filter at 20hz or 16hz on the O audio amp?

2: And do I need to hook up the left and right input on the O audio or is just one ok?

 

[Matt34]

1: Should I run the subsonic filter at 20hz or 16hz on the O audio amp?

2: And do I need to hook up the left and right input on the O audio or is just one ok?

Are those your only two options? WmAx recommmended I try 18hz.

Your probably safe to hook it up to just one, does one have a "LFE" lable?

 

[lsiberian]

Alright guys. Since I am going to have another kapa perfect sub built for me I decided to unhook the EP2500 and hook up an O audio Bash plate amp.... Now I don't turn the gain on either amps past 1/2 but I honestly can tell no difference between the two amps whatsoever. It may be because I don't want to put my sub into clipping. Anyway this sub sounds amazing regardless of amp, hits super deep and gets really loud without being boomy at all.

I am gonna stick with the O Audio for this sub and the next one built since I can't tell the difference and I don't need to buy a separate subsonic filter. Couple questions...

1: Should I run the subsonic filter at 20hz or 16hz on the O audio amp?

2: And do I need to hook up the left and right input on the O audio or is just one ok?

Isn't the price of 2 bash amps greater than the price of a behringer?

 

[annunaki]

Isn't the price of 2 bash amps greater than the price of a behringer?

DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

I purchased an EP2500 and a DCX2496 for $536.00 shipped from www.zzounds.com

That is approx $36.00 more than two O-Audio amplifiers and an additional 1,100 watts PLUS way more flexibility & tuning options.

Did I mention that the DCX is worth every penny when it comes to room integration?

 

[Inertia]

Matt34: It has 25, 20, 16, and 12hz subsonic filter, and no LFE label.

I guess I didn't think about the fact that the Ep2500 and DCX2496 are not much more than 2 O audios. The only thing... I hear that the DCX is extremely hard to setup correctly. I heard you need a laptop for it which i could get my hands on. How difficult is it to hook up the DCX correctly?

 

[Alex2507]

DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

I purchased an EP2500 and a DCX2496 for $536.00 shipped from www.zzounds.com

That is approx $36.00 more than two O-Audio amplifiers and an additional 1,100 watts PLUS way more flexibility & tuning options.

Did I mention that the DCX is worth every penny when it comes to room integration?

I'm sure you know that I agree with that approach but I think it needs to be pointed out that you need a laptop, calibrated mic, sound card and know how to make that fly. I guess if you have the money and already know stuff it's no big deal. For me, money's tight and I don't know much so it's going to be one long uphill battle to get from here to there. I'm on my way though.

 

[avaserfi]

I'm sure you know that I agree with that approach but I think it needs to be pointed out that you need a laptop, calibrated mic, sound card and know how to make that fly. I guess if you have the money and already know stuff it's no big deal. For me, money's tight and I don't know much so it's going to be one long uphill battle to get from here to there. I'm on my way though.

Not true. You don't need a laptop to use the DCX2496, it just makes life a little easier and things will get done more quickly. You can fully interact via the front panel.

As far as equipment goes for integrating a subwoofer you just need a radio shack SPL meter a sound card and cables long enough to reach a computer or a laptop. Then download REW for free - it is very easy to use. If that really isn't possible just use sine waves and graph paper with the RS meter. Sure it will take longer, but it will save you money. Please note, using a RS meter will only be suitable for frequencies below 100Hz and even then it would be beneficial to find proper correction files.

 

[Djizasse]

I hear that the DCX is extremely hard to setup correctly. I heard you need a laptop for it which i could get my hands on. How difficult is it to hook up the DCX correctly?

Integration, no matter what is the EQ unit you use, will not be easy. Apart from this, I found the DCX really easy to operate. I can surf around the tiny LCD with ease, but you can use a computer to control it through an even easier manipulation of the parameters.
As for the cable hookup you can use, depending on your outputs:

Source to DCX - 3.5mm jack or RCA to XLR adapter (with or without cable)
DCX to amp - XLR to whatever adapter

If you get stuck, just ask around here and I'll help you around the DCX navigation.

 

[annunaki]

I'm sure you know that I agree with that approach but I think it needs to be pointed out that you need a laptop, calibrated mic, sound card and know how to make that fly. I guess if you have the money and already know stuff it's no big deal. For me, money's tight and I don't know much so it's going to be one long uphill battle to get from here to there. I'm on my way though.

This is all wrong.

I set mine up with a disc that has individual test tones, a Rat shack SPL meter, and windows excel so I could plot it out. It was NOT difficult. It took 10 mins to get my response plot. Oh yeah, I borrowed the SPL correction factors for the meter from the SVS website.

One can set up the DCX completely through the front panel. Again which is what I did. Sure it takes a little time to get used to the interface, but after that is was a snap.

 

[Alex2507]

Not true. You don't need a laptop to use the DCX2496, it just makes life a little easier and things will get done more quickly. You can fully interact via the front panel.

As far as equipment goes for integrating a subwoofer you just need a radio shack SPL meter a sound card and cables long enough to reach a computer or a laptop. Then download REW for free - it is very easy to use. If that really isn't possible just use sine waves and graph paper with the RS meter. Sure it will take longer, but it will save you money. Please note, using a RS meter will only be suitable for frequencies below 100Hz and even then it would be beneficial to find proper correction files.

This is all wrong.

I set mine up with a disc that has individual test tones, a Rat shack SPL meter, and windows excel so I could plot it out. It was NOT difficult. It took 10 mins to get my response plot. Oh yeah, I borrowed the SPL correction factors for the meter from the SVS website.

One can set up the DCX completely through the front panel. Again which is what I did. Sure it takes a little time to get used to the interface, but after that is was a snap.

At least I was right about not knowing much.
And about being on my way. Double
I'll get there yet.

 

[annunaki]

It's all good Alex.

I will tell you though that the DCX is one of the best purchases I have ever made.

I used to question whether or not I really needed it. Now I cannot go back! I have only owned it for about 2 weeks now to boot!

 

[MidnightSensi]

In my opinion its kind of a different animal. If you want to build a DIY subwoofer that is like a typical active home subwoofer, than that O Audio Bash amp makes sense. It's all integrated, you just plug it into a receiver like normal.

A prosound amp and processor, is two extra pieces of equipment to find space for, and are especially ugly. It works great for people like me that have racks and no wife, but if it comes down to being in someones living room on a equipment shelf, its a judgement call. The upside is with a processor and convection cooled amp, your getting a lot more configuration, probably much better speaker protection (peak limitors, etc.), plus without having to conduction cool you can gets gobs of power for cheap.

 

[lsiberian]

I think you could also get away with an EP1500. It would have comparable wattage to a Bash amp. And be 100 bucks cheaper.

Just a crazy thought.

 

[lsiberian]

Matt34: It has 25, 20, 16, and 12hz subsonic filter, and no LFE label.

I guess I didn't think about the fact that the Ep2500 and DCX2496 are not much more than 2 O audios. The only thing... I hear that the DCX is extremely hard to setup correctly. I heard you need a laptop for it which i could get my hands on. How difficult is it to hook up the DCX correctly?

You are building a DIY sub and you are complaining about the setup of the DCX.

I guarantee you painting the boxes will take more effort than setting up the subs. Don't sell yourself(or Christ and Andrew) short. While your at it consider getting a post 3 channel amp and integrating all the mains and the subs. This would guarantee you sick sweet sound. This also gives you an upgrade path if you so choose it.

 

[alexwakelin]

I think you could also get away with an EP1500. It would have comparable wattage to a Bash amp. And be 100 bucks cheaper.

Just a crazy thought.

I get all the volume I need from a 750 watt pro-amp with my Kappa sub. Now, someone that likes to crank it more than I do, or that has a larger room might need a bigger amp, but you can get by with much less than an EP2500.