Just bought a Pioneer 1015... sub no longer works?!

[lithnights]

I just bought a Pioneer 1015 (thanks to all that suggested that in previous posts).
I unhooked my old Kenwood receiver and rehooked all the wires to the 1015. I utilized the MCAC Auto Calibration feature and it went through all my speakers etc. with test tones. Very cool by the way. All the speakers work as expected..

BUT... when it was all said and done, I no longer get anything from my sub. I went through the manual and followed all their suggestions for when the sub isn't working and did what it said. I have it into the correct output (based on their picture), I verified that the sub was ON by using the manual changes available via MCAC, I have the sub turned on etc.. Still no sub sound.

I even went as far as unhooking the 1015 and rehooking the Kenwood just to see if the sub was definitely working. IT WAS WORKING on the 10 year old Kenwood but not on my new 1015. Very weird indeed.

So now what... I have a great $500 receiver but my sub doesn't work with it?

Any suggestions? Are there certain subs that wouldn't work with certain receivers? I can't imagine that would be the case but I'm clueless here.

Thanks in advance!!

lithnights

 

[Hi Ho]

Any suggestions? Are there certain subs that wouldn't work with certain receivers? I can't imagine that would be the case but I'm clueless here.

No, the sub preouts on receivers all output the same type of signal. Unless it's an HTiB system with some sort of proprietary connector, any sub will work with any receiver.

How did you have the sub hooked up the the old Kenwood? Did it have a sub-out jack or did you have it connected via the high level inputs?

It's possible that you may have a defective receiver with a bad sub-out jack or, if you weren't using the line-level input on your sub before, that it is bad.

 

[j_garcia]

Check to make sure the receiver didn't set your speakers to large.

 

[farscaper]

The MCACC on my Pioneer seems to always put my front bookshelf speakers to large. I manually have to put them back to small.
Or try another sub cord.

 

[jcPanny]

Line level output

Your new receiver might have a lower voltage for it's line level LFE signal to the sub. First, turn your sub to manual ON without the auto on feature and verify that it is working. If this works, increase the sub dB level in the receiver so that it gets a higher voltage and will automatically kick on and lower the sub volume knob so that you can use the auto on feature.

Also verify that the crossover knob on the sub is at the highest frequency setting or bypassed.

 

[Blundaar]

My old Sony receiver's LFE was in use for music as well as movies regardless of my speaker size settings. LFE is caput on this receiver (x-cept DD and DTS audio formats, of course) when the front speakers are set to "large". It does kind of suck.

 

[lithnights]

Check to make sure the receiver didn't set your speakers to large.

Wow, I hope it is that easy. I did notice they were on LARGE and left them that way. I will change them to SMALL and see what happens..

Thanks!

 

[lithnights]

My old Sony receiver's LFE was in use for music as well as movies regardless of my speaker size settings. LFE is caput on this receiver (x-cept DD and DTS audio formats, of course) when the front speakers are set to "large". It does kind of suck.

If they are not set to LARGE (instead set to SMALL) what is the difference? Will I ever notice it? I'm not an audiophile so I am thinking I won't notice.. hopefully!

As long as I get my sub back, I'm sure I'll be happy.

 

[Blundaar]

If they are not set to LARGE (instead set to SMALL) what is the difference? Will I ever notice it? I'm not an audiophile so I am thinking I won't notice.. hopefully!

As long as I get my sub back, I'm sure I'll be happy.

It depends on a lot of things. Speakers, crossover settings, how good your sub is for music, where you put your sub (I notice, for me, that placement when listening to music is critical). Play around and let your ears decide.
I assume your sub is working just fine for movies, correct?

 

[j_garcia]

If they are not set to LARGE (instead set to SMALL) what is the difference? Will I ever notice it? I'm not an audiophile so I am thinking I won't notice.. hopefully!

As long as I get my sub back, I'm sure I'll be happy.

For any speakers set to large, the bass that would have been redirected from them to the sub will no longer be sent to the sub. If those speakers cannot reproduce that bass, it will literally be "lost". In most cases, you want all of your speakers set to small, with the lowest crossover point available on your receiver that the speakers can handle - this should bring back much of your bass if that is the only issue. jcPanny makes a good point also about the voltage.

 

[Zuke]

Also you can set the sub level to "PLS" and get some booming bass.

 

[lithnights]

For any speakers set to large, the bass that would have been redirected from them to the sub will no longer be sent to the sub. If those speakers cannot reproduce that bass, it will literally be "lost". In most cases, you want all of your speakers set to small, with the lowest crossover point available on your receiver that the speakers can handle - this should bring back much of your bass if that is the only issue. jcPanny makes a good point also about the voltage.

Setting the speakers to SMALL did the trick. Thanks everybody for your responses. Very helpful! I do have some other questions about my 1015 that I couldn't find answers for in the manual but I will post them on a new thread....

Thanks again!!