JBL L166 Horizon speakers circa 1976 - Anyone familiar?

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einsteinjb

Audioholic
Fellas,

Just fishing here... I have in my possession a very used pair of JBL L166 Horizon 3-way speakers from about 1976. Anyone here know anything about these or have any interest in them? I used them for about 3 years from say 1997 - 1999 to mix a record (VERY long-term project) and they sounded amazing, but since that time I've had to keep them in the garage and they've suffered a bit. The cabinets are intact but the drivers have gotten a bit dry-rotted; in fact I gently touched one of the mids recently and it actually split with the touch, so they'd need to be re-coned. The woofers didn't seem to be in very good shape either. Hated to keep them there, but the family wouldn't allow them anywhere else (they take up some space).

Here's a page showing all the info I've been able to find about them:

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html...rs/1976-l66.htm

If I recall, the woofers are 12", mids 5", 1" tweeter. They have pots to adjust the mid and high driver levels to tweak them for your room or tastes. They never sounded truly smooth or crystal clear like today's finer speakers, but they were LOUD, accurate, a touch gritty (the classic JBL sound), but powerful. Bass response was crazy when they were properly positioned in the room -- I did NOT need a sub with these! Made awesome big monitors for mixing.

From what I understand, these had an MSRP of close to $1000 new back in '76. I spoke with a JBL authorized repair shop and they told me all the parts to restore these to functionally new condition are still available from JBL, though they're not especially cheap. Would cost several hundred to recone all the drivers, plus I'm not 100% sure of the condition of the crossovers. They worked when I used them with a bit of crackle when you tweak the pots, but when left alone they worked nicely. I wanted to restore them, all new parts, refinish the cabinets, etc. but I just don't have the money and if I did, I'd have no place to keep or use them. They need a big room.

The repair shop went on to tell me these speakers (actually many old JBLs) have an almost cult-like following. Apparently there are people who will travel hundreds of miles to pick up old pairs of these and other vintage JBLs and will pay through the nose for them. Since I can't afford to restore them and really don't have a use for them right now, I thought I'd ask here, see if anyone knows any more about them or might even be interested in buying them. I know even in their current condition they're worth money; I just saw an ebay auction where the grills alone sold for $125!!! They have these funky grills that are supposed to disperse the sound or something, as you can see in the pics on that web site (personally I always mixed on them with the grills removed). One of my grills is still in great shape, the other is falling off its frame a bit but I'm sure I could easily glue it back together.

If anyone has any thoughts on these I'd love to hear them. Even if you're not interested in buying them, maybe you could suggest an alternative source for parts (xovers, drivers, etc., other than official JBL parts) that would fit these and sound at least as good as the originals? It would be sweet to get these beasts slammin again, even if I can't really use them in my house right now.

Thanks!
 
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surfmat

Audiophyte
JBL L166 circa 1976 I am original owner - contact me.

Aloha

I also have JBL L166 Speakers .. I am an original owner that bought them in 1976. They are nice. Orange Grill. I have had them re coned once like 15 yrs. ago and have not used them since..

I would love anyone that has information on them to please post or better yet please contact me at surf_2day@yahoo.com

Mahalo.
Matt
 
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Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
einsteinjb said:
Fellas,

Just fishing here... I have in my possession a very used pair of JBL L166 Horizon 3-way speakers from about 1976. Anyone here know anything about these or have any interest in them? I used them for about 3 years from say 1997 - 1999 to mix a record (VERY long-term project) and they sounded amazing, but since that time I've had to keep them in the garage and they've suffered a bit. The cabinets are intact but the drivers have gotten a bit dry-rotted; in fact I gently touched one of the mids recently and it actually split with the touch, so they'd need to be re-coned. The woofers didn't seem to be in very good shape either. Hated to keep them there, but the family wouldn't allow them anywhere else (they take up some space).

Here's a page showing all the info I've been able to find about them:

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html...rs/1976-l66.htm

If I recall, the woofers are 12", mids 5", 1" tweeter. They have pots to adjust the mid and high driver levels to tweak them for your room or tastes. They never sounded truly smooth or crystal clear like today's finer speakers, but they were LOUD, accurate, a touch gritty (the classic JBL sound), but powerful. Bass response was crazy when they were properly positioned in the room -- I did NOT need a sub with these! Made awesome big monitors for mixing.

From what I understand, these had an MSRP of close to $1000 new back in '76. I spoke with a JBL authorized repair shop and they told me all the parts to restore these to functionally new condition are still available from JBL, though they're not especially cheap. Would cost several hundred to recone all the drivers, plus I'm not 100% sure of the condition of the crossovers. They worked when I used them with a bit of crackle when you tweak the pots, but when left alone they worked nicely. I wanted to restore them, all new parts, refinish the cabinets, etc. but I just don't have the money and if I did, I'd have no place to keep or use them. They need a big room.

The repair shop went on to tell me these speakers (actually many old JBLs) have an almost cult-like following. Apparently there are people who will travel hundreds of miles to pick up old pairs of these and other vintage JBLs and will pay through the nose for them. Since I can't afford to restore them and really don't have a use for them right now, I thought I'd ask here, see if anyone knows any more about them or might even be interested in buying them. I know even in their current condition they're worth money; I just saw an ebay auction where the grills alone sold for $125!!! They have these funky grills that are supposed to disperse the sound or something, as you can see in the pics on that web site (personally I always mixed on them with the grills removed). One of my grills is still in great shape, the other is falling off its frame a bit but I'm sure I could easily glue it back together.

If anyone has any thoughts on these I'd love to hear them. Even if you're not interested in buying them, maybe you could suggest an alternative source for parts (xovers, drivers, etc., other than official JBL parts) that would fit these and sound at least as good as the originals? It would be sweet to get these beasts slammin again, even if I can't really use them in my house right now.

Thanks!
For some reason, your link does not work...could be my computer or ISP. These speakers do have collector value...but not much to you, it sounds like. Put 'em on ebay as is and use the proceeds to buy something you like. Bringing them back to spec is not worth the effort or money, unless you love the speakers, IMHO.
 
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Toka

Enthusiast
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just came across it...anyway, I see we are neighbors (I live outside Philly) and I would possibly be interested in the JBL's if you are looking to unload them. Getting them back into shape seems like a good project, plus I've always wanted a pair. PM me if you are interested. Thanks!
 
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einsteinjb

Audioholic
Thanks for the interest but I actually sold these a while ago to a guy who loves old JBLs. Sorry bout that. He's done some restoration on them just to get them in working condition and I'm told they sound amazing. I'm not surprised; they sounded awesome back when I used to use them years ago. Would have loved to keep them myself and get them working again but just didn't have the space, money, etc.
Toka said:
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just came across it...anyway, I see we are neighbors (I live outside Philly) and I would possibly be interested in the JBL's if you are looking to unload them. Getting them back into shape seems like a good project, plus I've always wanted a pair. PM me if you are interested. Thanks!
 

marc0443

Audiophyte
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just came across it...anyway, I see we are neighbors (I live outside Philly) and I would possibly be interested in the JBL's if you are looking to unload them. Getting them back into shape seems like a good project, plus I've always wanted a pair. PM me if you are interested. Thanks!
I also live near Philly and have 4 JBL L166 Horizons. Are you stilll interseted in acquiring some of these?
 
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