It won't fit - is that stupid?

Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
I still think Aperion is wrong to say that a healthy working $500 AVR will sound bright ...
Absolutely. If it were really "bright", it would show up in the frequency response of the unit. The idea that Yamaha receivers are "bright" is a popular myth among many audiophiles, who parrot back all sorts of nonsense they have heard other people claim.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
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There is, of course, another issue in audio, and that is the fact that there are some people who are not satisfied, no matter how good their gear is. They have a real problem, but the problem lies in themselves, not in their equipment.
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Pyrrho,
Thanks a million, (or at least $2k), for your time and consideration.

However, PLEASE stop talking to my wife!!!

I did not tell you not to spend more money; I only said that if you do, spend it wisely. And also, what you quoted, that the problem some people have is that nothing satisfies them.

My wife really enjoys the audio from our surround system and from our main 2 channel system, and she does not have a problem with what I have spent. And I never lie to her about what things cost. But I mostly spend money to get real results, not on frivolous extras, and I only spend what we can afford. My $1700 receiver was purchased on a special closeout deal for more than 2/3 off; I would never actually spend that much money on a receiver. But I have spent thousands on the speakers, because there the money makes a real difference in how things sound. I needed to replace the old receiver, as it is a very old model (from the perspective of home theater receivers and how soon they become old), that did not have any provision for adding a delay to the audio to match the video, and also had no HDMI capability at all. So a new receiver was needed for features, and I stumbled upon a good one in a special closeout deal, which is nice to have, but really unnecessary; a lower model would be fine.

And now I am satisfied with my systems that I have mentioned in this thread, and do not plan on ever upgrading the audio portion of either (a larger TV for the home theater would be nice, but I will wait until prices drop significantly more and TVs get better, or until I need to replace a TV due to product failure). Of course, if something fails, I will repair or replace it, but I have no intentions of ever just upgrading the sound.

On the other hand, if a great deal on something spectacular fell into my lap, I would consider it. But I can easily live with what I have with no complaints.

Anyway, if you spend the money wisely and only on things that really matter, that make a significant difference that your wife will notice, then she is going to be less likely to complain about it. If you buy an expensive receiver and she cannot hear the difference, she will likely not like the fact that you have effectively flushed a bunch of money down the toilet. And, of course, you should only spend what you can afford to spend. There must be money left for essentials, like beer.
 
H

herbu

Audioholic Samurai
Pyrrho,
You sound like a wise man, and it sounds like we share the blessing of a good woman. Mine is better than I deserve. She says I'm better than she deserves. I guess that's what makes a good team.

I'll keep an eye out for that closeout to drop into my lap.

Thanks to all!!!!!
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Thanks, guys. You got me thinking... and as much as I hate that, it's why I asked.





This gets to the heart of replacing the receiver. The guy, (really nice guy), at Aperion suggested a better receiver would improve the sound of the Verus Grand Towers before I even bought them. I said ok, that will be my next step, and bought the VGTs and VGC anyway.

To me, they sound great, and the Yamaha has more than enough juice to drive them and the 4 KEFs. (I'm currently running 7.1, w/ the 2 subs simply split w/ a splitter cable.) Normal listening level is -25dB... -10dB for really cool loud HT stuff like The Return of the King... 0dB only when the boss is away as it hurts her ears, scares the cats and dogs, and makes me have to pee. (The FV15HP really is a "beast"!)

So it's not a question of volume. Not really even a question of the .2 separate controls as the Rythmik and KEF have enough controls on them that I think my T-shaped room is fairly well covered now, at least for our 2 seats.

It's really a question of sound quality, which only came up because Aperion said it would make a difference. In fact, they really didn't recommend these speakers with my Yamaha rcvr.

I've seen Pyrrho's sentiment expressed elsewhere... that there really isn't a difference in sound quality as long as you have enough power to drive your speakers. I'd hate to drop another couple grand and find I really can't tell a difference. So I'm still thinking.

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys!!!
Congrats on your speaker purchase but stop listening to the sales person now. :D It sounds like you have enough power to spare so buying additional watts is a waste of cash as Pyrro stated.
 
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