Initial Set-Up Help

[Malazan]

I have a new set of Yamaha Speakers with a Subwoofer. The Freq. Range for the speakers are as follows


Center: 100HZ-33kHZ
Surround: 75HZ-33kHZ
Sub: 30HZ-200HZ

What should my starting point be in regards to my crossover setting? My sub has a built in crossover that goes from 50HZ-150HZ in 10HZ increments.

My reciever has a crossover that can be set at: 40Hz, 60Hz, 80Hz, 90Hz, 100Hz, 110Hz, 120Hz, 160Hz, 200Hz

 

[Midcow2]

I have a new set of Yamaha Speakers with a Subwoofer. The Freq. Range for the speakers are as follows


Center: 100HZ-33kHZ
Surround: 75HZ-33kHZ
Sub: 30HZ-200HZ

What should my starting point be in regards to my crossover setting? My sub has a built in crossover that goes from 50HZ-150HZ in 10HZ increments.

My reciever has a crossover that can be set at: 40Hz, 60Hz, 80Hz, 90Hz, 100Hz, 110Hz, 120Hz, 160Hz, 200Hz

The cross over setting has to do with your front speakers. Assuming typical front speakers with minimal bass, set the front speakers to "small" and crossover around 80-100 Hz as a starting point. JMHO.

MidCow2

 

[Pyrrho]

I have a new set of Yamaha Speakers with a Subwoofer. The Freq. Range for the speakers are as follows


Center: 100HZ-33kHZ
Surround: 75HZ-33kHZ
Sub: 30HZ-200HZ

What should my starting point be in regards to my crossover setting? My sub has a built in crossover that goes from 50HZ-150HZ in 10HZ increments.

My reciever has a crossover that can be set at: 40Hz, 60Hz, 80Hz, 90Hz, 100Hz, 110Hz, 120Hz, 160Hz, 200Hz

Presumably, you are using the line level subwoofer output on the receiver and feeding that to a line level input on the subwoofer. If there is no "bypass" for the crossover in the subwoofer, set it to the highest possible setting. You will be using the receiver's crossover, so you want the subwoofer's crossover to interfere with this as little as possible.

You don't give the frequency response of your main speakers, but I will presume that they go at least as low as your center channel (if that is not the case, then you need to tell us about your main speakers).

You don't say, but for the purposes of my advice, I will presume the frequency response of the speakers you give are the ratings for +/- 3 dB. If that is not the case, then you need to tell us in order to get the right advice for your equipment.

Assuming that you can only set one frequency that applies to all speakers (some receivers can set the crossover different for front, center, and surround), set the receiver to 100 Hz. You can try it a little higher or lower as well, but given the fact that your center is - 3 dB at 100 Hz, if you go lower, then you will be having a dip in the frequency response from around 100 down to whatever you set the crossover point for the center channel, and that is not good. If you set it higher, you are more likely to be able to tell where the subwoofer is by the sound. This is because the higher the bass, the easier it is to localize by sound, and 100 Hz is already pushing things a bit.

 

[Malazan]

Presumably, you are using the line level subwoofer output on the receiver and feeding that to a line level input on the subwoofer. If there is no "bypass" for the crossover in the subwoofer, set it to the highest possible setting. You will be using the receiver's crossover, so you want the subwoofer's crossover to interfere with this as little as possible.

You don't give the frequency response of your main speakers, but I will presume that they go at least as low as your center channel (if that is not the case, then you need to tell us about your main speakers).

You don't say, but for the purposes of my advice, I will presume the frequency response of the speakers you give are the ratings for +/- 3 dB. If that is not the case, then you need to tell us in order to get the right advice for your equipment.

Assuming that you can only set one frequency that applies to all speakers (some receivers can set the crossover different for front, center, and surround), set the receiver to 100 Hz. You can try it a little higher or lower as well, but given the fact that your center is - 3 dB at 100 Hz, if you go lower, then you will be having a dip in the frequency response from around 100 down to whatever you set the crossover point for the center channel, and that is not good. If you set it higher, you are more likely to be able to tell where the subwoofer is by the sound. This is because the higher the bass, the easier it is to localize by sound, and 100 Hz is already pushing things a bit.

Sorry about that,

My Front and Rear Speakers are 75Hz to 33kHz
My center is 100Hz to 33kHz

The sub has a control on it called a High Filter Bypass that goes from 50Hz to 150Hz

In the manual it says to set the Filter to 110Hz for proper tone balance between the speakers. What should my AVR be set at?



Here is the Specs:

MAIN/SURROUND

Driver Complement 3" high compliance woofer with rubber surround
1" ferro-fluid cooled balanced dome tweeter
Input Power 40 watts nominal, 100 watts music power
Frequency Response 75 Hz-33kHz +/-3dB
Sensitivity 87dB/2.83v/1m
Impedance 6 ohms
Dimensions W x H x D = 4-1/4" x 7-1/2" x 5-1/2"
CENTER

Type Two-way, dual bass reflex, magnetically shielded bookshelf type
Driver Complement Dual 3-1/2: high compliance woofers
1" ferro-fluid cooled balanced dome tweeter
Input Power 50 watts nominal, 125 watts music power
Frequency Response 100 Hz-33kHz +/- 3dB
Sensitivity 87dB/2.83v/1m
Impedance 6 ohms
Dimensions W x H x D = 12-1/4" x 4" x 5-1/2"
NS-P610 WOOFER TECH SPECS

Driver 8" spruce cone driver, magnetically shielded
Amplifier Built-in 70 watt Yamaha Advanced Active Servo Technology
Frequency Range 30-200Hz
High-Cut Filter 2 position
High Cut Slope 24dB/oct
Dimensions W x H x D = 9-1/4" x 14-1/3" x 12-1/2"
Weight 18.2 lbs.

 

[Midcow2]

Sorry about that,

My Front and Rear Speakers are 75Hz to 33kHz
My center is 100Hz to 33kHz

The sub has a control on it called a High Filter Bypass that goes from 50Hz to 150Hz

In the manual it says to set the Filter to 110Hz for proper tone balance between the speakers. What should my AVR be set at?

Turn your sub high filter off (you would onluy use it if you are sending full range to the sib and not using the receiver's crossover; then it would make sense and would filter out form the sub frequencies higher than 110 Hz which is probalby close to the upper limit of where the sub sounds good). Use your receiver and start at 80-100Hz, set front speakers to "small" ( doesn't really mean small). Then frequencies higher than 80-100Hz will got to the fronts and frequencies lower will than 80-100Hz will go to the sub. Just because it says your fronts will go a low as 75 Hz , it does not mean they will sound good at 75 Hz.

Good Luck and take all opinions on Audiolics with a grain of salt.

MidCow2

 

[Pyrrho]

Sorry about that,

My Front and Rear Speakers are 75Hz to 33kHz
My center is 100Hz to 33kHz

The sub has a control on it called a High Filter Bypass that goes from 50Hz to 150Hz

In the manual it says to set the Filter to 110Hz for proper tone balance between the speakers. What should my AVR be set at?



Here is the Specs:

MAIN/SURROUND

Driver Complement 3" high compliance woofer with rubber surround
1" ferro-fluid cooled balanced dome tweeter
Input Power 40 watts nominal, 100 watts music power
Frequency Response 75 Hz-33kHz +/-3dB
Sensitivity 87dB/2.83v/1m
Impedance 6 ohms
Dimensions W x H x D = 4-1/4" x 7-1/2" x 5-1/2"
CENTER

Type Two-way, dual bass reflex, magnetically shielded bookshelf type
Driver Complement Dual 3-1/2: high compliance woofers
1" ferro-fluid cooled balanced dome tweeter
Input Power 50 watts nominal, 125 watts music power
Frequency Response 100 Hz-33kHz +/- 3dB
Sensitivity 87dB/2.83v/1m
Impedance 6 ohms
Dimensions W x H x D = 12-1/4" x 4" x 5-1/2"
NS-P610 WOOFER TECH SPECS

Driver 8" spruce cone driver, magnetically shielded
Amplifier Built-in 70 watt Yamaha Advanced Active Servo Technology
Frequency Range 30-200Hz
High-Cut Filter 2 position
High Cut Slope 24dB/oct
Dimensions W x H x D = 9-1/4" x 14-1/3" x 12-1/2"
Weight 18.2 lbs.

In that case, follow my original advice. I would select 100 Hz to start, and then also try a little above and a little below, to see if I liked the results. It may turn out that you will like the results best at 110 Hz, but the only way to be sure will be to try both and listen for yourself.

The reason for setting the subwoofer crossover to "bypass" (or as high as you can set it) is because you will be using the crossover in the receiver. Since the receiver will be sending the correct frequencies to each speaker, there is nothing for the crossover in the subwoofer to do. If you did not have a crossover in the receiver, then you would want to use the crossover in the subwoofer.

And, of course, Midcow2 is right in telling you to set all of the non-subwoofer speakers to "small" in the receiver, as you will be wanting to send the deep bass to the subwoofer, not to them.

If you consult the manual for your receiver, it probably will tell you something very much like what I am suggesting that you do. Of course, you should not simply take my word for that; consult your manual for your receiver.