Indy 5

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I've tried explaining this to fans. Harrison's 80. Even on a fictional level he cannot do the physical role. So they have to add in CGI and flashback to a younger Indy. It's been said to death it's about time travel, but more likely it's this 'you can do it one more time' heroism. It's also more about parting with an iconic character than any of it really being feasible. Ford doing this Yellowstone-ish show where he's this elder statesman type with a gun fighting bad guys make sense. Indy 5 shows just how silly fandom has become for more.

 

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Jump the Shark-

Indy pulls out his whip but then gets fired at by several villains. Ducks under a table.

 

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Indy 4-

Playing hot potatoes with a skull while speeding in a car. Someone thought that was good writing. Someone watched it and liked it.

 

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Imagine if Ford were doing Indy at 100?? You now can with cgi.

 

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An estimated cost of $300-350 million with the reshoots. Another $200-250 in marketing. It will need to make a billion to be deemed successful. Will it? Yeah it could. Unfortunately.

 

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Another favorite line I heard recently is "We didn't ask for this film anyway." I joked and replied "We'll go see it anyway." Because people will go see it. It's really quite painful to see clips of Ford throwing punches etc at this point.

 

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I actually think this one is worse than Rey's super female by Kathleen Kennedy. At least she had youth on her side, and since the force is a mental power, well there's nothing to really say she couldn't be the strongest jedi ever. It's the lack of writing her with a character arch that was the problem. Not Daisy Ridley.

But this one Ford doesn't have youth or the force on his side. They have to cover it up with flashbacks. Bizarrely, fans acknowledge this. I don't blame Ford on this one. It's probably his last big payday, but the fans. As one person said, I too am a manchild who doesn't want to let go of my childhood heroes. Hahaha! Oh wait.

 

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It would seem to me you just embrace the next chapter in Ford's acting career. He's this elder in a western. Carrying a gun. Shooting bad guys. Maybe throwing punches against someone his own age etc. I think fans have hit rock bottom with Indy.

 

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There's a dynamic between fans and Kathleen Kennedy and the feminization of masculine roles. Nothing new really on that topic. But what's interesting is the approach to go after her on Indy. It involves claiming Indy is not presented as a "strong" character due to KK's mingling. Yet Indy80 is not Indy40. It's never said specifically why this is, or how to achieve it within the story. Mangold appears to be caught in the cross hairs of this. Like what was he suppose to do? Give him no arch. He's 80. There's flashbacks because you can't sell Indy80 for two hours. As part of his age it's about rediscovering he can do it one more time etc. (No matter how silly I think the premise is.) It looks like young fans are torn between wanting Harrison Ford to play Indy forever and reality. Hence the absurdity of where we are now. Rumor has it the jokes regarding his age have been removed, but that was kinda the point or possibly the point from maybe Kennedy. Instead it's deemed demeaning to the character, even though he's 80 LOL. There's a scene where the female lead is dangling from the plane saying, "I was here to save you." Kind of the joke. Indy grabs her and they jump off with a parachute.

 

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This would seem to be good news. I didn't think he'd be replaced but just end cause nobody can see anyone but Ford playing it. He's the only one that can end it.

No One Is ‘Replacing’ Indiana Jones, Says James Mangold

The new movie does not introduce a new Indiana Jones.

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People seem to be under the impression that the Hollywood studios are trying to replace every major male character with a female replacement. Yes, there is a major push for better representation, but that doesn't just mean slapping a woman into every role under the sun. As Mangold points out, we really don't even know how Dial of Destiny is going to play out. What we do know, is that Harrison Ford has said this is his final movie in the series. Not only that, but he said when he's gone, Indy’s gone. There's really not even a potential for Indy to pass the torch on here. Mangold is clear: Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s character is not becoming the new Indiana Jones in this movie.