I Was Bored at Work

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Yeh so I had some time to kill at work so I took a few open box items we had and stuck 'em all together to make a pretty fun little system!

I took an Onkyo TXSR-503 and hokey rigged it to a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 70's.
I say hokey rigged because I wired the low end into the front channels and the high end into the surround channels and ran the receiver on all channel stereo, making it a wannabe bi-amping.

I then put two Velodyne DPS-10's on there for a little extra bass.

It wasn't a lot but it was enough to hear it throughout the whole store and pissed off some customers, so I consider it a success.

And even with all this I still managed to hit over 140% of my daily budget in my department, making me number one in the store! I love my job!

Here are some pics of my handy work teehee.

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/454015.jpg>

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~Chuck

 

[Sheep]

Must have been hard to get the dsp 10's the the same volume


I'm waiting ofr a call at a HiFi store (A&Bsound).

If i was screwing around there it would be...

Energy Vertias 2.4 towers
Yamaha RXV 2500
Velodyne SPL1200R's or DLS-R 5000R's


sheep

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Yeh, we don't get anything in the way of high end... The DPS-10 is about as high as it gets around here. We also have the Infinity PS12 but I didn't want to rip it out of the display I have it set up on and I only have one in the store... I wanted two matching ones.

Oh to get them to about the same volume I turned them all the way down then held the up button for 7 seconds or so on each, worked out pretty well.

What is really ghey is that we sell the M282 amp, but only on our website, you can't get it in the store, so I can't get a bunch out and stack them. (that is probably why haha) O0o that would be fun!

~Chuck

Oh, PS. That Monitor 70 that is sitting off to the side. Somehow it blew out. Must have been the customer who returned its fault.

 

[mike c]

chuck, so how do you rate/describe the infinity ps-12?

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Mike,

It is definitely a decent sub for the price, I like it much better than the DPS-10 in my opinion (same price). I have it hooked up at work with the INI Beta 50 fronts, c250 center, and Beta 20 rears. It compliments them very well, and it looks like your system is pretty close to that. I keep it in a open part of the store and you can hear it vibrating the light fixtures throughout my department when it is at a good volume. Plus I only run our DTS demo or a DTS movie through it. Top Gun is a frequent in that display .

Unfortunately it is the only sub like it we have in the store, so I can't really compare it to anything else. The only other 12" we have that is worth mentioning is the Velodyne VRP series and it is less than half the power...

One other thing I can say about it though is that it seems to be pretty resilient. I've have had the display sub for about a year and I run it pretty hard for at least 12 hours a day 7 days a week (longer on weekends) and it is still running strong.

The only thing is I find that if I run the crossover much higher than minium that it has a hard time keeping up. But I like to keep only the lowest frequencies coming out of there anyway, so it is no problem for me!

If you have any specific questions about it I can take a look the next time I'm in!

~Chuck

 

[mike c]

wow chuck, that setup is pretty much what im looking at! except we only have the ps-10 here ... you are the ONLY person in this forum i know that deals with these betas

dont you find that the beta 50 overwhelms the c250?

what amp are you using to run those beta 50's? (i want the 50's but am afraid i have no amps in my budget to power it, looking at the yammy 1500 or HK AVR 335)

do you have the HK 335 amp?

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Actually the display is running the HK AVR 635. I figured if I'm going to be putting our biggest Infiniti's out there, I may as well use the biggest HK I have. I never put HK with Polk and Onkyo with Infiniti in my store .

I personally haven't been too much of a fan of HK as of now because I find their receivers not as user friendly as some of the other ones. Also, the 635 on that display, an $1100 receiver, is having trouble decoding DD. It works great for DTS, but not DD, it will just play it it Pro Logic. It is probably just that particular unit, but it still pisses me off.

As far as the Beta 50's are concerned, right off the bat they did seem to be a little too much for the C250, but after a few adjustments, no problem! They seem to be a little power hungry though so I'm sure if you stick the 335 and a 2 channel on there you will be very happy. The do well without it on the 635, but I know they would be a lot better bi-amped. Those 8" drivers don't really do much by themselves. I'm going into work today so I'll play around with them with my ghetto bi-amping and see what they do.

~Chuck

 

[Sheep]

chuck, just wanted to say happy birthday



sheep

 

[mike c]

happy birthday chuck! thanks for looking into the betas/HK

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Hah, thanks guys!

So, I played around with the Betas a bit more. I only had them plugged into the Onkyo amp (701) with my little bi-amping scheme.

I noticed at lower volumes the highs just weren't coming through. You could barely hear them at all. Once I pumped the volume up they really stood out, but the fact that they weren't showing up at lower volumes kind of threw me off. I don't think they do that on the HK amp but I have never put the HK in my soundroom and listened to it at a lower volume.

I would test them with the receiver you want to use so you can be sure they will fit well together. They definitely rock at higher volumes though!

Here is what my display looks like at work. Lots of open space is what these speakers really need to perform.

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/454039.jpg>
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Here they are when I put them in the sound room:

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/454041.jpg>


And this is what it looks like when you stack Monitor 70's. Pretty cool I think!

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/454042.jpg>

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/454043.jpg>


~Chuck

 

[mike c]

wow b0se! just kidding

i love the look of speakers without grills! looks like a studio!
i was planning to use the yamaha rx-v1500 (would you happen to have that?)
if that doesnt work, an HK AVR335 will have to do

only if it doesnt bother your work though
must be fun playing around with that stuff

 

[mike c]

the onkyo is one heavy duty amp! and you say it has trouble running the high and mids? hmmm

wait, its 6ohms of 160wpc (is that RMS?) whats a JEITA? thats weaker than an equivalent 160wpc 8ohms right?
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/leaflets/pdf/tx-sr701_leaflet.pdf


http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_receivers/tx-sr701/index.html

 

[Sheep]

man, you have too much fun at work, I thought driving forklifts was a blast.

I see theres a lovey bose setup, how do you deal with customers that come in wanting bose? A&Bsound (place I might be working at) is cleaning out there bose section due to no sales.

By the by, those are lovely dents in the infinity's dust cap.

sheep

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Wow I had a nice post all written up, and the ghey *** forum decided to make me log in again and deleted my post. Poop

Yeh, I shouldn't get paid to do what I do. I have way too much fun there.

Bose customers are fun. Usually I can't talk them out of it, but some I can save. For those who insist on having it, I tack on as many attachments as possible just out of spite. I always recommend to replace all that thin speaker wire with our high end (high margin) Monster speaker wire. Also, you don't want to have your awesome new system get blown up by one stupid power surge, so you better spend $350 on this excellent power center provided by Monster.

My last Bose idio...erm... customer walked out of the store with the AM10III, which is a $1000 set. He also left with just over $1200 in Monster products, no joke. That was one of the sales that helped me hit 140% of my budget on Sunday, so I don't mind them that much.

As for the Onkyo, yeah that is a tough amp! The 701 is rated at 100wpc at 8ohm so don't worry about the 6ohm ratings because the Beta's are 8ohm speakers. But you are right, 160wpc at 6ohm is not as powerful as 160wpc at 8ohm.

JEITA is the Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industries Association, which is basically the Japanese version of the FTC for electronics. Onkyo is a Japanese (Onkyo means "sound" in Japanese) company so they get verified wattage ratings over there too.

Circuit City doesn't carry Yamaha, but I think I would still get the HK for those Infinities. Afterall, they are the same company. I figure they test the products on eachother so they fit the best together, but who knows. All I know is they sound fine on the HK and they had that High problem on the Onkyo at lower volumes. In the end it is up to you, but you might want to try your Yamaha on them in the store before you make up your mind.

~Chuck

 

[j_garcia]

So that stuff is all now considered open box and you'll give me a good deal on it right?

 

[mike c]

thanks chuck,

but the HK you tried on the speakers (630 i think) 2x or 3x the price of my budget
hmmmm ... so many things to buy ... so little money

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

Mike,

Get the 335. You said that was one in your budget right? You could probably even get away with the 235, but if you can manage, go with the latter.

The difference between the two isn't all that great, especially when it comes to power. Either way you are going to want to bi-amp them so having a few less watts a channel right off the bat isn't going to hurt.



J,

The Velodyne DPS 10 and the Onkyo 701 are open box, I can't sell my displays.

~Chuck

 

[mike c]

hey chuck,

do you mean bi-wiring or bi-amping?

 

[thxgoon]

thanks chuck,

but the HK you tried on the speakers (630 i think) 2x or 3x the price of my budget
hmmmm ... so many things to buy ... so little money

Honestly, your betas are pretty sick. I'd put them up against Polk anyday.

 

[mike c]

please define "sick"