I can't get true 7.1 ...What am I doing wrong?

[guitarplyrstevo]

Right now I am running the Denon DVD-1800BD blu ray player and connecting it to the Onkyo TX-NR905 using an hdmi cable. When ever I run a blu ray dvd (like X-Men:The Last Stand), the Onkyo displays something thats not true 7.1. On the left side of the 905's display where there are the little boxes, the boxes that are lit up are FL, FC, FR, SR, SL, LFE, and SB but the SB box is in the back center.

Does this mean that the back left and right are matrix from one source? How can I get it so the display lights up the SBL and SBR instead of having only one box in the back center?

 

[Adam]

Hi. It could just be the example disc that you sighted, but the soundtrack in X-Men: The Last Stand is 6.1. That would explain the display for that movie. I'd just suggest that you make sure that the discs that you are playing have 7.1 soundtracks. You might not be doing anything wrong at all.

 

[guitarplyrstevo]

Hi. It could just be the example disc that you sighted, but the soundtrack in X-Men: The Last Stand is 6.1. That would explain the display for that movie. I'd just suggest that you make sure that the discs that you are playing have 7.1 soundtracks. You might not be doing anything wrong at all.

Oh I didn't even realize that. Thank you for the quick response.

 

[allargon]

Here are two very recent 7.1 Blu-Ray titles (both from Disney):

The Nightmare Before Christmas has 7.1 Dolby TrueHD
Sleeping Beauty has 7.1 DTS-HD MA

More?

3:10 to Yuma has 7.1 PCM so even the crappiest profile 1.0 standalone can play it.

The Golden Compass has 7.1 DTS-HD MA.

"Hannah Montana" also has 7.1 DTS-HD MA.

 

[guitarplyrstevo]

Here are two very recent 7.1 Blu-Ray titles (both from Disney):

The Nightmare Before Christmas has 7.1 Dolby TrueHD
Sleeping Beauty has 7.1 DTS-HD MA

More?

3:10 to Yuma has 7.1 PCM so even the crappiest profile 1.0 standalone can play it.

The Golden Compass has 7.1 DTS-HD MA.

"Hannah Montana" also has 7.1 DTS-HD MA.

Do you know of any movies that are recorded in 7.1 DTS-HD MA that have a really good audio soundtrack with a lot of action?

 

[Adam]

You might enjoy perusing this list of Blu-ray discs sorted by audio format.

 

[jostenmeat]

Do you know of any movies that are recorded in 7.1 DTS-HD MA that have a really good audio soundtrack with a lot of action?

Damn, I spent 10 minutes copying/pasting/editing/typing/getting this post together, and I accidentally closed the window. Grrrr.

6.1 titles. The first three are PCM, Shinobi is TrueHD, and the rest are DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-MA.

Crank
The Descent
Dirty Dancing
Disturbia
Face/Off
Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle
King of New York
Lord of War
Saw
Shinobi
The Untouchables
Weeds: Season One
X-Men: The Last Stand

7.1 titles. I took the time to denote DTS-MA with an *

Others, maybe 11, are PCM. Of MA, 16 are 24bit. Of these, 2 are 96 khz and they are the two classical music titles.

3:10 to Yuma
The Bank Job *
Be Kind Rewind *
Belly *
Black Mask
Lionsgate
Daddy's Little Girls
Dark City *
Delta Farce
Doctor Strange
The Doors
Dragon Tiger Gate *
The Eye *
The Forbidden Kingdom *
The Golden Compass *
Good Luck Chuck
Grieg - Piano Concerto / Symphonic Dances *
Hairspray *
Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus *
Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay *
House of 1000 Corpses
House of Fury
The Invincible Iron Man *
La Traviata at La Scala *
Meet the Browns
Mr. Woodcock *
Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow *
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Oldboy *
The Orphanage *
Pan's Labyrinth *
Perhaps Love *
Rambo *
Run Fatboy Run *
Rush Hour 3 *
Saw IV *
Semi-Pro *
Shoot 'Em Up *
Sleeping Beauty *
Step Into Liquid *
Tchaikovsky - Piano Concertos Nos. 1&3 *
Ultimate Avengers
Van Wilder
Waiting...
War
Weeds: Season Three
Weeds: Season Two
Witless Protection *

Compare with others' opinions:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=918734

I took the lists from using the "filter" + "audio" function here:
http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php

whew....

 

[jostenmeat]

Does this mean that the back left and right are matrix from one source? How can I get it so the display lights up the SBL and SBR instead of having only one box in the back center?

Use one of the matrixing modes. Like Pliix, Neo6, or THX modes I think*.

Matrixing from one source? Not sure what the question means, but its not a cheap parlor trick. Algorithms are used to take certain audio information away from sides to be used in the rears, when going from 5.1 to 7.1 for instance. I imagine that a 6.1 to 7.1 wouldn't do anything but simply replicate the rear in both rear speakers? A guess.

When you have X-men3 on, nevermind what the lights are telling you... do you hear audio from both speakers?

cheers.

 

[guitarplyrstevo]

You might enjoy perusing this list of Blu-ray discs sorted by audio format.

Oh nice. What are some titles that you personally recommend that are recorded in 7.1 DTS-HD MA?

 

[bandphan]

Matrixing from one source? Not sure what the question means, but its not a cheap parlor trick. Algorithms are used to take certain audio information away from sides to be used in the rears, when going from 5.1 to 7.1 for instance. I imagine that a 6.1 to 7.1 wouldn't do anything but simply replicate the rear in both rear speakers? A guess.

not like in the 80-90s with the original pro logic, that was a cheap parlor trick