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MichaelJHuman

Audioholic
I was looking at the HTR-6090. Seems it would give me what I (think) I want.

3 Component Inputs (My main requirement)
2 HDMI Inputs

It does seem to be lacking the upconversion abilities of the RX-V2700. It says it does 480p deinterlacing. My best guess on what they mean is that it would take 480i from a DVD player, upscale it to 480p and send it down the HDMI output.

Can anyone clarify its upconversion abilities in comparison to the RX-V2700's abilities?

I have read about the differences between the HTR and RX series and it seems they should be comparable in audio performance. Perhaps the digital TOP-Art design and burr brown inputs on the 2700 make for a slightly better sound (as well as its higher rated output.) I don't know that I could tell the difference.
 
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Snap

Audioholic
There are several things that make the HTR different than the RX series. Some are just looks areas. The others are testing the amp, and the amps rated output. Some of the codes and functions. Things like that.

In short the RX stuff is sold to custom installers and Stereo shops. And HTR is sold to box pushers like BB and CC. There are other things that make them different as well.

There was some post about this several months ago if my memory serves me right.

As for the up conversion, the 2700 will provide better up conversion than the HTR

Your DVD player playing standard DVD's is 480P. so that is a 1 for 1 output. It is talking about up converting analog TV, VCR 480i to 480P.

If you have the money get the 2700. But that is my .02 cents.
 
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MichaelJHuman

Audioholic
I thought only progressive players output 480p? (Mine might be, I forget.)
 
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Audioholic
true.... I assumed that is what you would be using. Normally people that are talking about getting a RX-V2700 roll with a progressive scan DVD.

But unless your TV can take 480P than it is a moot point as far as the upconversion any way.
 
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Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
MichaelJHuman said:
I thought only progressive players output 480p? (Mine might be, I forget.)
A few months back I was in the market for cheap DVD player and based on what I saw I don't think you can buy a DVD player that is not progressive scan these days. Ended up with a Panasonic something or other for $59 at CC. My point being that if your current DVD player does not do progressive scan, it's not a lot of $ to get one that does.

Nick
 
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jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Yamaha HTR and RXV

Check the disclamer on the Yamaha web site. The HTR and RX-V lines use identical internal components and are made on the same assembly line. The RX-V version has the machined face plate and sometimes a couple more features. The HTRs have a plastic face plate and can be sold online by authorized dealers. Even though the amps are the same, they rate the power differently for the different product markets (20-20kHz vs. 1kHz)

Check the specs, but the HTR-6090 should be comparable to the RX-V1700 model.
 
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MichaelJHuman

Audioholic
Interestingly enough, the 6090 is only rated at 20-20k. Perhaps because they view it as their top of the line HTR. Although, the other high priced HTR is THX Select but lacks some of the features of the 6090.
 
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Rolls

Audiophyte
I am a newby here, but what I can tell, the 6090 compares most closely with the 1700. The differences seem to be around the 3rd zone output and some higher level programing (RS232, 12v outputs)

I have a 6090 on order. Should be here on in a couple days.

My question for this group is whether or not this is a good match to my sytem

TV - New Sharp Aquos LC52D62U This set can take in full 1080p over HDMI.
Speakers - Definitive BP706 front, CLR2002 center, BP2X surround, and a 100TL sub.
DVD - Sony DVPNS75H Single Disc DVD Player

Is this system all compatible? I know the DVD upconverts to 720p or 1080i, will this reciever pass this through the HDMI ports? I also plan to add HD digital cable using there HDMI port. Not sure what the resolution is, but will this pass through the 6090? Just want to make sure all ths stuff will work together.
 
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Flea

Enthusiast
I had an HTR. It always bothered me that the RX-V line was out there. So I went and bought one. I know what Yamaha says but I just feel better with the RX-V
 
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Rolls

Audiophyte
Got Mine

Well, I went ahead and purchased the HTR-6090. I agree with the last post, weighs a ton. I have it hooked up to a complete Definitive Technology surround sound system (BP7006-Front, CLR2002-Center, BP2X-Rear, PS100T-Sub). Got this all connected in a couple of hours. The sound was just OK when I got this connected, but then I ran the Auto setup routine using the supplied microphone. This system came alive once I did this. I have now connected a upconverting DVD from Sony, an older RCA 5 disk CD changer, and a Belkin PF30 Power Console. Now I am just waiting (impatiently) for my Sharp 52" LCD TV (on order). In the meantime, I am using a 20" LCD so I can see the OSD information.

So far, I am happy with my purchase. :)

Just for recall, I returned the RX-V1600 in exchange for this one. Although very similar, the HDMI on the 1600 was V1.1 compared to this one at V1.2, I also wanted the IPOD connection capability as well as the HDXM. These features are more similar to the V1700, but cost a few hundred more and I really did not have any use for the 3rd zone audio or the 12 volt switches.

In any case, the 9060 seemed like a better value then the 1700, and had the features I wanted for my home theater.

If I really wanted to spend more, I would have jumped to the 2700 to get the better upconverting capability.
 
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aaronroth

Audiophyte
ok so i just spent $900 on a brand new Yamaha HTR-6090 and the guys at
best buy said i can hook up my Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 surround
sound speakers to the optical out and hear them just fine....but i
tried the optical out for the CD-R and the MD and the 5500 unit says
No Optical Output ????? ok so does anyone know how to configer this
6090 to output all audio to the CD-R optical output or the MD optical
output ?? THX IN ADVANCE :D btw, sounds AWESOME with barewire connections to the 5500's but i would still need a bass :(
 
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chas_w

Full Audioholic
A couple comments on things in this thread:

1. Some of the HTR series receivers (like the 6090) do have aluminum face plates - but do not have the more clean and attractive drop down door of the RX-V1700/2700. Some of the lower RX-V line have plastic face plates (such as the RX-V459 as noted in the areadvd.de review - if you speak German or have the patience to translate with Babelfish).

2. The HTR-6090 does have Burr Brown DACs and ToP-ART design. The Canadian Yamaha website has nice PDF brochures of all the Yamaha receivers. One for the 6090 can be found at:

http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Receivers/Brochures/HTR6090.jsp
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
PC Speaker connections

aaronroth said:
ok so i just spent $900 on a brand new Yamaha HTR-6090 and the guys at
best buy said i can hook up my Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 surround
sound speakers to the optical out and hear them just fine....but i
tried the optical out for the CD-R and the MD and the 5500 unit says
No Optical Output ????? ok so does anyone know how to configer this
6090 to output all audio to the CD-R optical output or the MD optical
output ?? THX IN ADVANCE :D btw, sounds AWESOME with barewire connections to the 5500's but i would still need a bass :(
Aaron, your logitechs are powered computer speakers. If you you plan on using this type of system, return the $900 receiver and connect them to your PC. If you don't have a PC sound card with optical out, you can buy one for $20.

If you want to get a real HT system and are willing to spend $1k, you should consider spending $300 on the receiver (HTR-5960) and the rest on the speakers (Onix X-LS 5.1, $700). Remeber, the speakers have the biggest impact on the audio performance of your system, so budget accordingly.
 
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aaronroth

Audiophyte
jcPanny said:
Aaron, your logitechs are powered computer speakers. If you you plan on using this type of system, return the $900 receiver and connect them to your PC. If you don't have a PC sound card with optical out, you can buy one for $20.

If you want to get a real HT system and are willing to spend $1k, you should consider spending $300 on the receiver (HTR-5960) and the rest on the speakers (Onix X-LS 5.1, $700). Remeber, the speakers have the biggest impact on the audio performance of your system, so budget accordingly.

i know they are computer speakers, but they are really nice ones haha...i had them hooked up to my MacPro but at the time i only had some sony stereo speakers hooked up to my sony reciever. then one day my buddy and I said it would be cool to hook up the 5500's in the living room so we can use them for Xbox 360 and DVD's....so we did...and hooked them up directly to the optical out on the xbox....they worked AMAZING, 1000x better then my other stereo speakers. We were in best buy the other day and saw the 6090 and i just randomly asked the salesmans if my optical 5500's would hook up to the 6090 and he went to go check and said they would....so i figured i can buy the new reviever and use the already in place speakers i have until my nephew gets his job at klipsch and then buy the really good speakers :) so yea it was and is just a temp thing....worse comes to worse i just need to go buy a decent sub until i get the new speakers, cause DAMN the barewire from the 6090 to the 5500's sound AMAZING...i cant wait to add some bass to it, and then wow, when i get the new klipsch system....so anyways if anyone knows if YOU CAN, hookup speakers to work with the optical out let me know :) if not its cool :) THANKS
 
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