HSU MBM-12, worth it?

[ThA tRiXtA]

Hey guys, I am at a bit of a crossroad when it comes to the new sub(s) I want.

I was thinking of picking up either two HSU VTF3-MK3's or a VTF3-MK3 and a MBM 12 however after listening to a recent AVRant podcast the other day that specifically addressed having both those two units, perhaps I was being somewhat overzealous and not thinking clearly.

There is no reason that I can think of that any quality sub, including the VTF3-MK3 should not be able to reproduce the low and mid bass frequencies at a flat FR at authoritative SPL's instead of letting the MBM 12 handle everything from 50 Hz up to the crossover point.

However perhaps people here that own an MBM 12 are aware of something I am not.

I know that I will buy two units, so which do you think I should grab? two VTF3-MK3's or one MK3 and a MBM 12 to go with it? This is a fairly costly expenditure for me especially considering the shipping costs to Canada, so I want to get it right before I shell out the cash.

I can't foresee one sub not being able to handle the whole range, let alone the fact I will be using two.. so either sub shouldn't have to work overly hard. Am I just being sucked in by creative advertising?

I understand having two subs producing from 20 to 80 Hz (or whatever crossover setting you choose) can help alleviate some room / bass frequency interaction problems, if a person were to run 2 VTF3-MK3 and a MBM 12 would that not be a little overkill? Why does HSU think that the 50 to 80 Hz range needs to be emphasized?

 

[Sheep]

Great Argument over the MBM-12 here!

SheepStar

 

[ThA tRiXtA]

Nice thread Sheep, thanks for the link.

I think that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for me, time to start countin' my pennies...

 

[abboudc]

The benefit of two isn't so much the FR, as being able to place them where you want and take care of "room issues".

 

[ThA tRiXtA]

The benefit of two isn't so much the FR, as being able to place them where you want and take care of "room issues".

I understand having two subs producing from 20 to 80 Hz (or whatever crossover setting you choose) can help alleviate some room / bass frequency interaction problems

I already said that the main function of running two subs is to eliminate peaks / nulls, which generally manifest themselves because the room is either reinforcing certain frequencies or canceling others out.

My question was basically asking wouldn't you rather have two full range subs (20 to 80 Hz) rather than one sub from 20 to 50 and another from 50 to 80?

From my train of thought, that's not even like having two subs at all. Technically, yes you do have two subs but they are not working together.

 

[abboudc]

I already said that the main function of running two subs is to eliminate peaks / nulls, which generally manifest themselves because the room is either reinforcing certain frequencies or canceling others out.

My question was basically asking wouldn't you rather have two full range subs (20 to 80 Hz) rather than one sub from 20 to 50 and another from 50 to 80?

From my train of thought, that's not even like having two subs at all. Technically, yes you do have two subs but they are not working together.

IMO, having an MBM + Sub will sound better than having one sub alone. Having two identical subs will sound better than having one sub + an MBM.

 

[majorloser]

And having three subs and an MBM just shows you have issues......

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=269096&postcount=92

 

[ThA tRiXtA]

And having three subs and an MBM just shows you have issues......

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=269096&postcount=92

I wouldn't say so, if I wasn't tight on cash at this point in time I would have two VTF3's and an MBM 12.

Unfortunately I just can't do it right now, so I think I will go with 2 VTF3's.