How to improve my system?

C

ckdh

Audiophyte
Hi,

I'm a beginner at this, so please have patience with me.

I'm looking to improve my sound system. Here's what I have so far:

2 JBL LSR-4328P studio monitors
Yamaha RX-V663 receiver
SVS PC13-ultra subwoofer

What can I add to improve my system? The living room is pretty small, maybe 250 sq foot (NY apartment).

thanks,

--ck
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Hi,

I'm a beginner at this, so please have patience with me.

I'm looking to improve my sound system. Here's what I have so far:

2 JBL LSR-4328P studio monitors
Yamaha RX-V663 receiver
SVS PC13-ultra subwoofer

What can I add to improve my system? The living room is pretty small, maybe 250 sq foot (NY apartment).

thanks,

--ck
If you don't like the sound of your system, then go speaker shopping, until you hear what you like.

Basically speakers dominate the sound of a system, and have an overall effect far greater then any other component.
 
C

ckdh

Audiophyte
I'm happy with my speakers. I'm just wondering if I can improve it by adding a preamp, amp. What would that give me?

thanks,

--ck
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
It would still sound like your speakers and your subwoofer.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
you've listed you have two active speakers and an active sub, Yes - adding better amp will really help :rolleyes:
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
You can't add an amp to ACTIVE (built in amp powered speakers).

A preamp will not necessarily change the sound of what you already have.....

What exactly are you having a problem with....
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
Those are some sweet speakers. Things you can do to improve your system include adding two more subs (three gives you much improved coverage and smoothed response), and getting an RTA/measurement mic to measure your in-room decay might be an idea worth considering. LSRs have nice polar response but i suspect they might still benefit a decent bit from some work on the room - IE some diffusion panels and bass traps. The only way to really know what yoir room is contributing is to measure it! Once you've measured it, you can start seeing where the bass and treble settings on the active monitors should be and what they do. Placement makes a :big: difference for bass as near wall means you should lower the bass setting and vice versa perhaps, and for treble, harman studies have shown a preference for a falling power response as frequency rises as being perceived as more natural - but this depends on your room acoustics more than placement.

Back to placement, nearby objects and walls definitely impsct stereo image and clarity. So it doesn't ONLY affect bass.

Partsexpress sells a calibrated dayton microphone, and you can try tracking down a USB mic preamp like the m-audio. Home theater shack can really help you out on the software end with room equalization wizard. GIK acoustics sells some attractive panels.

Id avoid broadband absorption as I don't think you need it with those speakers. If absorption, it should be something which reflects above 400hz or so. placement of these panels in the room can change the sound as well. You may even find that removing carpet and replacing it with hardwood improves your SQ! Who knows! Measure, analyze, and discuss the room! See what ultimately sounds most natural to your ears.

Below the shroeder frequency where the room dominates the sound (normally around 350-500 hz) some people like to add some equalization. I'd probably leave it as is because equalization never deals with more than one seat, but if you prefer your own seat to others you might consider it (after bass traps) as it will tighten up the sound. Measurements will tell you where to add cuts, and i wouldn't add many boosts.

One final thing is that you should try stuffing the ports on the LSRs and adjusting the crossover accordingly. Sealed mains tend to blend better to subwoofers, and the electronic crossover should protect the driver in the sealed box. This might raise your crossover point -above- 80hz in which case I would only do it with a minimum of two subs because it starts getting localizable. Just listen and experiment and see what sounds tighter, smoother, louder, etc. Make sure to recalibrate the system after every change though.

Experiment with things that you --know-- are making a difference. It is rare that preamps and amps make one, and when they do, it means something is wrong! In your scenario nothing is wrong!
 
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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Hi,

I'm a beginner at this, so please have patience with me.

I'm looking to improve my sound system. Here's what I have so far:

2 JBL LSR-4328P studio monitors
Yamaha RX-V663 receiver
SVS PC13-ultra subwoofer

What can I add to improve my system? The living room is pretty small, maybe 250 sq foot (NY apartment).

thanks,

--ck
Welcome.:)

What is it you are after? What do you feel is deficient in what you hear? Are you only interested in 2 ch setup? Or, multi channel surround sound?

What is the floor in the room, bare hardwood or carpeted? On the walls? Maybe you need acoustic treatments?

Hard to say without knowing what the problem is if any. It could be just an upgrade itch?
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Like some others have posted, try playing with room acoustics (bass traps, acoustic panels, etc) and placement of speakers/listening position. That will yield greater benefits by far than cables, interconnects or electronics. :)
 
Cruise Missile

Cruise Missile

Full Audioholic
I tend to think the room is the biggest part of what you hear, the speakers are second. Put the finest speaker made in a tile bathroom it'll sound like garbage.

The first thing to do is show us the room with pics or a diagram. Make sure to list the measurements of the room including ceiling height. Once you tweak placement room treatments would be second.

The members here are very good about spotting possible setup tweaks that can make significant improvements to the performance of your system. Heck, there's already some great input coming your way.
 
Y

yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
I tend to think the room is the biggest part of what you hear, the speakers are second. Put the finest speaker made in a tile bathroom it'll sound like garbage.

The first thing to do is show us the room with pics or a diagram. Make sure to list the measurements of the room including ceiling height. Once you tweak placement room treatments would be second.

The members here are very good about spotting possible setup tweaks that can make significant improvements to the performance of your system. Heck, there's already some great input coming your way.
i wholly agree with this, bad placement can make good speakers sound really bad, good placement can make a cheap HTIB sound somewhat decent.

generally when it comes to placement, i find placing the speakers firing long ways into the room, at least 4-5 feet from any corner, and 3 feet from the back wall, sounds the best in virtually every room ive had my setup in. seating is also important, if you have your seating area butted up to the back wall your going to hear strong reflection of bass, which is never a good thing IMO.
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
Hi,

I'm a beginner at this, so please have patience with me.

I'm looking to improve my sound system. Here's what I have so far:

2 JBL LSR-4328P studio monitors
Yamaha RX-V663 receiver
SVS PC13-ultra subwoofer

What can I add to improve my system? The living room is pretty small, maybe 250 sq foot (NY apartment).

thanks,

--ck
Along with the other questions, what source(s) are you using?
 

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