how do you find a trustworthy installer for a new home theater?

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Evan L. Mestman

Audiophyte
I am moving some equipment around and updating an old surround sound system but need some help. Best Buy isn't the place to invest in my next man cave equipment (or is it?) I have Marantz SR 8200, cdn 7NT B & W tower speakers with matching bookshelf rears, Sub (6 yrs old) and center speaker that are 12 years old in a large room 22 x 22 with a cupola which makes great sound difficult. I am building a man cave office with the opportunity to either move this equipment downstairs and start fresh upstairs but need advice. Where do you go and who do you trust? Can I get good sound from in the wall speakers (to decrease the footprint that my wife wants)? I use the surround sound mostly for good movies and shows with some music, especially when entertaining. I need to be able to hook up to outside speakers and want to add 2 speakers to the kitchen through the attic so I can enjoy great sound while cooking. I've been told to buy a pre amp and amp instead of a receiver so I can change with the times. This Marantz doesn't have HDMI or bluetooth. Need help.
i want to keep this under $5,000. Thanks.
 
jcparks

jcparks

Full Audioholic
Hey Evan... You have quite a bit here. You should definitely replace your receiver, but if they still make you happy, there is no reason to get new speakers as you look like you invested quite a bit into those at one point.
I wouldn't call a separate pre/pro more future proof because the preamp alone often will cost you more then a stand alone receiver.
On the forums here people will usually point you towards
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/2.html?brand_f[]=DENON&brand_f[]=MARANTZ
To buy a receiver. Being that you own a marantz I would look at either marantz or denon as they are made by the same company. What receiver you buy depends on things need, are you interested in immersive audio (ceiling speakers)? As far as the additional rooms I would go another way about that. Lemme switch to my pc for this.
 
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Evan L. Mestman

Audiophyte
Hey Evan... You have quite a bit here. You should definitely replace your receiver, but if they still make you happy, there is no reason to get new speakers as you look like you invested quite a bit into those at one point.
I wouldn't call a separate pre/pro more future proof because the preamp alone often will cost you more then a stand alone receiver.
On the forums here people will usually point you towards

To buy a receiver. Being that you own a marantz I would look at either marantz or denon as they are made by the same company. What receiver you buy depends on things need, are you interested in immersive audio (ceiling speakers)? As far as the additional rooms I would go another way about that. Lemme switch to my pc for this.
Thanks. I did invest a good deal of money in the speakers so I will keep them and use them in the downstairs room (man cave/office). For the large room with the cupola, do you think I can get good sound with the ceiling speakers? Can I get good surround sound with ceiling/in wall speakers? I like Marantz and plan on sticking with the company but getting updated seperates, if it fits my budget.
what line of speakers will give me great sound in the wall or ceiling?
thanks again.
 
jcparks

jcparks

Full Audioholic
Well for Marantz Pre/Pro, again I would stick with accessories4less, and it depends on how many speakers you want to power and what features you are looking for. Here are your options.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/audioamps/home-audio/receivers-amps/processors-power-amps/1.html?brand_f[]=MARANTZ
as for the living room... personally I would stay away from the ceiling speakers and get a high quality stereo listening system that becomes a part of the Decor.
For instance...
http://philharmonicaudio.com/slims.html
They aren't the cheapest, but you can custom order them with different veneers to match most designs. Personally I think they are Beautiful and there are many on the forum that rave about the sound.
also consider the sierra tower
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/SRT/srtgal.html
or anything from Salk
https://www.salksound.com/
There are lots of options.
If you are doing a Home theater down stairs in the man cave, do you really need a second one upstairs?
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Ninja
Where are you located, Evan? You might be near a good installer known to others here, or at least near a respected member will to give you hands-on help.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Ceiling speakers are great for doctors/dentists offices and restaurants but have no place in home audio.

Wall speakers are somewhat better but they still limit your options since they cannot be "positioned" for optimal sound.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
You can get very good sound from good in-wall and in-ceiling speakers, but they carry a premium, and often you put some of these speakers into rooms which are far less than ideal. In-ceiling speakers pointed at hardwood or tile floors in a kitchen with wooden cabinets doesn't always provide much more than 'good' sound, even with decent speakers, but it can all be budget related.

In a 'surround sound' space, where you want good audio, then to get good sound from the in-whatever speakers, you need to spend the money on good speakers. Back boxes and directional speakers can help direct sound and provide a proper backing to deliver the best audio. I'm much more a fan of in-wall vs. in-ceiling because of the directionality of the audio coming from those speakers and that walls tend to be a bit stiffer so you end up with a more controlled surface you are working from.

Anyway, whether you get a separate amp or not is up to you. Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer and others sell multi-zone receivers which can handle the THREE zones of audio you are trying to get to. It is important to understand that with three separate zones you really do want a receiver that can handle that. Certainly a pre-amp/amp setup can do this, but many A/V receivers with internal amplification can also handle this and can provide amplification for zone 2 (at least) and audio output for zone 3.

You will want to consider how you are controlling everything and get a remote control solution which is actually easy to use. Your phone is RARELY easy to use in these types of setups. Most zone 2 and zone 3 audio is limited to analog audio connectivity only, so your sources will need analog audio, or a way to feed analog audio to the system.

Wires will need to be run, so plan for drywall repair and painting as appropriate.

Under $5,000 is certainly doable, but it depends on what all is needed. Excellent in-wall speakers can run $3,000/pr. or more, so you know, keep expectations in line with what you really want to get out of the system. Generally 'good' in-wall/ceiling speakers may be $500 each. More 'generic' speakers are around $120/pair or so. You have a lot of room on equipment pricing. If you are shooting for $5,000, then let the installer know. They should be able to fit your budget and to speak to you about what they are getting and why.

Also, let us know your area, and there could be a couple of recommendations here. If you are on Facebook, there may be some community groups which can help steer you towards a good installer as well. Of course, you shouldn't do that if you are in the DC area - just call me. :D
 

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