How Come Everyone Is buying Xpensive $800 subs that are 300-100 watts

[sabedra211]

How Come Everyone Is buying Xpensive $800 subs that are 300-100 watts when they can like buy a 1000 watt or 600 watt home theater with the subwoofer at 300 to 100 watts ? is there something wrong with these Subs you could get a Reciever a Subwoofer and 5 to 6 Surround Speakers for like $500 whats wrong with these home theaters?
Thanks

 

[JoeE SP9]

Listen to one of those expensive subs connected to a decent system then compare that sound with one of those all in one box systems and you will be able to answer your question. Louder deeper and cleaner bass to start with!

 

[krzywica]

How Come Everyone Is buying Xpensive $800 subs that are 300-100 watts when they can like buy a 1000 watt or 600 watt home theater with the subwoofer at 300 to 100 watts ? is there something wrong with these Subs you could get a Reciever a Subwoofer and 5 to 6 Surround Speakers for like $500 whats wrong with these home theaters?
Thanks

Sit down take a deep breath and listen to a good pieced together system that is well calibrated.

It will knock the socks off your $499.99 Wal-Mart special.

 

[sabedra211]

Calm Down People Im Just wondering why.

Calm Down People Im Just wondering why.

 

[rgriffin25]

For the most part... you get what you pay for when it comes to home audio equipment. It really depends on how good of a shopper you are. Sure, there are products that are way over priced.. and there are some that are expensive yet worth every penny. What it really boils down to is what makes you happy. I have had some customers that were completely blown away by a cheap HTIB. For me I have heard better and can agree with the others there is a big difference. Go to your local Home Audio and hear for yourself!!

 

[MasterChief]

Lol so true griffin when i had a descent not HTIB but descent people were blown away to. now i was blown away with better speakers and what not. Still those expensive subs are way cleaner deeper wit less distortion and yes u need to know how to shop.The things about speakers usually is you have to listen to them to kno if there good like griffin said go listen to speakers at a shop

 

[westie7]

I've come to realize you either appreciate the difference or you don't. Sure, something like sub port noise or distortion is easier to pickup than accurate reproduction of a symbol but some people just don't care to listen for the difference.

 

[Dan]

There are many things that contribute to the sound of a subwoofer than just the power of the amp or the size of the driver.

On a basic level, the internal construction requires quality bracing to avoid noticable vibrations at these low frequencies. The way the drivers are mounted in the box also affects long term performance stability. While there are many ported designs which allow a greater total volume output there are also sealed enclosure subs which allow for a more linear response. Ported designs drop off rapidly below the port frequency.

Many people think that bigger is better when it comes to driver size in subs. However a very large driver is very heavy. The inertia of the magnet results in a slight delay in the onset of the sound and difficulty in stopping the excursion at the end of the sound which makes very large drivers sound slightly muddy. My subs have three 8" drivers which is equivalent to about a 14" driver in surface area (pi*r*r) but much lighter and therefore faster.

Cheaper subs have a higher system q which allows for a loud peak but drops off the lower end faster somewhat similar to a port. Many higher end subs have a low q or an adjustable q which allows a more linear frequncy response to a lower frequency.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

This "question" has several answers:

1. The $499 HTiB Wal*Mart special. This is a misnomer. Wal*Mart specials are $49 and $199 pieces of sh1t. $499 buys you a halfway decent HTiB from the likes of Yamaha, Sony, Onkyo, Panasonic, etc etc

2. The receiver in my HTiB has 1000 total watts, with 300 for the subwoofer alone. Asking a manufacturer how many watts its equipment has is similar to asking a highschool boy how many girls he's slept with. They will lie through their teeth to look good. The government doesn't really have the power to regulate such claims (or just don't want to). An example was a Sony HTiB that promoted "100watt x 5 channels!", but when measured on an objective computer, only found a paltry 12watts/channel with a crippling 10%THD.

The other side to this problem is that "watts" are not the end-all/be-all of loudspeakers. efficient peakers can play very loud with only a single watt. A HSU Research TN1220 subwoofer will easily outperform any HTiB subwoofer if you hook it up to a 25watt amp. Just like you can't judge a car based on its total HP output at 8000rpm, you can't judge a subwoofer at total watts driven.

3. Whats wrong with $500 HTiB systems? Nothing is wrong with them. They are designed to perform as well as they can at a cripplingly low price. Consumer audio has prices ranging froma $49 surround-sound system to CD players costing more than $20,000. If a company can design a $300/pair of bookshelf speakers, the same company cannot make equally good speakers for a fraction of that price.

Concessions have to be made to price, and HTiB's have the least expensive components designed and sold for the best price. Some people will be happy with a $500 HTiB, but music and movie lovers will soon desires better speakers, subwoofers that play lower & louder (subwoofers are universally very poor in HTiBs), receivers with better connections and more power, etc etc.

 

[shokhead]

How Come Everyone Is buying Xpensive $800 subs that are 300-100 watts when they can like buy a 1000 watt or 600 watt home theater with the subwoofer at 300 to 100 watts ? is there something wrong with these Subs you could get a Reciever a Subwoofer and 5 to 6 Surround Speakers for like $500 whats wrong with these home theaters?
Thanks

LOL $800 is not an Xpensive sub. Its a good sub. $600 will get you a good sub. 3X that is Xpensive to some and 2X that might be.

 

[MasterChief]

LOL $800 is not an Xpensive sub. Its a good sub. $600 will get you a good sub. 3X that is Xpensive to some and 2X that might be.

Very True ive seen subs at 20,000 and 25,000 damn wtf i was reading a guy debating on whether to buy 2 i think velos for 20 grand each or one other one for 25 grand. thats serious things.

 

[mazersteven]

Hey, sabedra211
You can get a good Subwoofer for under $500.00 Take a look at SVS SUBWOOFERS PB10-ISD priced at $429 at www.svsubwoofers.com I would use one of these subs before I would a super store (Best Buy) bought sub. Seems to be alot of good things said about these Subs. The Subwoofer for my system is Definitive Technology Supercube Reference $1699 retail.

 

[zumbo]

Well, the retail of my sub is $750. Now that's not what I paid, but retail + tax gets you $805.50. It is a NHT SW12. 12" 250 watts. So, I am right in line with this question. If I had it to do over again, I might consider a SVS or HSU. But my sub works well with my system, and I got a good deal on it.

 

[WoodieB]

I went from a "decent" sub, ($399.00 Def Tech ProSub 100) to an "outstanding" sub ($1049.00 SV PC-Ultra) and it's just like, "whoa, nelly"!! The SV just has awesomely tight, full range bass response whether playing movies or music. It is absolutely invisible in the room, even though it's now sitting about 3 feet to the right of my sofa, and is closer to the rear speakers than the fronts. And like others have pointed out, this is not an expensive sub. Now what I would really like to see is how much difference there would be in the sound of the SV and one of the multi-thousand dollar subs out there.
Edit: By the way, the SV does have 525 watts, not 100-300.