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Saggio

Audiophyte
Hello and thanks for reading, I am an audio post-editor and have recently decided to upgrade my home theater to higher standards. I have recently bought my first house, in an ideal situation I know it would be great to have an isolated room for the HT, but in my humble abode the living room is open and that is what I am left to use. The room measures 18.8 ft in length, 9.11 ft width, and 9 feet high.

I have contacts with yamaha through my work and I am able to get corporate pricing on there equipment. After reading up on Yamaha pro-HT stuff it seems that their loudspeakers (like Soavo) are getting mixed reviews, alotta them are discontinued in fact. Has anyone ever auditioned/owned these ever ? what do you think of them ?
Personally I would rather get a reliable brand-named speaker and pay full price rather than getting one that is lower quality, at a discounted price.

One thing I do know is that there receivers are excellent, as a matter of fact they have their own R&D dept. with things like room correction, where Denon pays out royalties to Odyssey to use their technologies. So I have decided to go with an Aventage, but when it came down to choosing one I got lost real quickly. I was in the mind-set that the highest model would have all of the features that the models under would, but that's not always the case with Yamaha; the rx-a3020 and rx-a3010 have some notable differences. Furthermore I don't even know if those 2 are the one I should get, as far as needing all of its features. Im not too interested in the superior video converting capability, but I would like to achieve the best sound I can given the environment Im currently occupying.

The floorstanders that I was aiming to get were either the Kef Q900s or R500's, obviously the R500s are a step up in quality but would I be doing them justice in a non-isolated room ? I also so saw a great pair of monitor audio silvers that I can get an awesome price on too. I have also read somewhere that Kef's quality is going lower and polk audio (high-end) are a much better in quality and price. But how am I to know if I am reading the opinions of biased users or not,

So all in all I would love to make my next purchased based on the feedback I get, as i naturally indecisive person I would love to hear the opinions of you out there. Any input would be deeply appreciated.

Much Thanks Everyone ;)
 
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hizzaah

Full Audioholic
What would your overall budget be? How many speakers were you planning to use?

With a sub, its going to try to pressurize the entire open space so how many cubic feet are we talking combining all attached open areas?
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
Hi there! I'd love to try and help you out with some recommendations. Before we get into that though, we need a bit more info.

As already mentioned, a budget would be very helpful. I'd also like to get a better idea of the sort of sound quality you're after.

As an editor, I'm guessing most of your work is more concerned about timing, sync issues, that sort of thing. Maybe you do some mixing as well? But do you also do mastering? Reason I ask is because most editors and mixers are much more used to very direct, linear sound. The mastering crew is typically more accustomed to a greater amount of room reflections and diffusion.

So I'm just making an assumption here, but I'm guessing your ears will be more greatly pleased by speakers that have more narrow dispersion, and have more of that direct, linear sound that I'm guessing you're more used to in your work. You also have quite a narrow room, so more narrow dispersion will limit room effects and reflections, which I'm also guessing will be closer to what you're used to, and therefore sound more "correct" and pleasing to your ears ;)

If the stuff you've said you've heard about Polk's higher end LSi speakers being "better" than Yamaha's Sauvo speakers came from guys who are in the same line of work as you, that would all line up with my assumptions ;) The Polk LSi speakers are quite "beam-y", which is to say, they have quite narrow dispersion. Many people criticize them for this because they remove the room's ambience from the sound. But professional mixers tend to prefer that, because it's closer to what they hear in a studio with near field speakers and well damped walls.

I think what might really float your boat though would be electrostatic speakers. Martin Logan, of course, being the obvious "go to" brand for that type of speaker. With electrostats, you'll get the highly directional, exceptionally clear and direct sound that I'm almost sure will appeal to you, but you also get the dipole output from the back of the speakers, which does two things: it eliminates the sidewall reflection entirely by creating a null at the side of the speaker, and it casts sound backwards, which brings the room's ambience back into the equation, but with enough delay that it doesn't smear any of the detail. It merely gives you a sense of space that is lacking with headphones or near field monitors. Most guys don't necessarily want to bring the studio environment home with them. They want the larger, more open sound that is expected with a big screen TV and a much greater listening distance. But they don't want to give up the direct sound, clarity, detail, and linear accuracy they're used to at work! Electrostatic speakers are, IMO, the best way to do all of that.

They LOVE lots of amplifier power though. And can really dip low in impedance sometimes. So I'd highly recommend you get some nice, beefy, low impedance-capable amplification to go with them. Thankfully, Yamaha receivers make for excellent pre-amp/processors! (The ones that have full pre-outs, anyway ;) ) So using a Yamaha receiver is a great choice here. I'd simply recommend adding separate amplification for at least the front 3 speakers. So I wouldn't focus on getting the highest end Yamaha receiver. I'd focus on getting one with all the features, inputs, and decoding that you want, and then just make sure it has pre-outs so that you can add that separate amplification!

Amps are all over the place in terms of prices. I'd just go with something solid, like an ATI AT2003 for the front 3 speakers, and then let the Yamaha receiver power the surrounds.

Any mixers I know tend to hate bloated bass. I'd recommend a really tight pair of subwoofers to you. Something like the Rythmik F15 or F15HP, or the SVSound SB13-Ultra if you can afford them.

Hope that's of some help!
 
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