Help with SVS PB12-Plus setup for AV receiver

jamespaulp

jamespaulp

Audioholic Intern
This is my first post here, so, please bear with me. I recently purchased the SVS PB12-Plus thanks to all positive feedback I read here.

It is connected to my Onkyo receiver through LFE. Prior to this my cheap sub that came with the HT system had only one setting, the gain.

I am confused as to what to do with all those controls behind the sub when connected the receiver using LFE. Any help is really appreciated. It is sitting in a corner about 3" from the wall.

I also live in an apartment on the second floor, so I cannot really turn up the volume that high.

PS: The buying experience with SVS was good. The shipping company delivered it in really good condition. If I knew they would help me bringing it in home, I would have gone for the heavier PB12-Plus/2.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Congratulations on your new purchase!

There's a bit that can be said about setting up a sub. We'll be happy to help you out (as will SVS!).

I suggest that you check out this link: http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/

It's from this site and has a number of articles about how to set up your sub and get better response. Just let us know what questions you have after you have a chance to flip through those.

Again, congrats!
 
jamespaulp

jamespaulp

Audioholic Intern
Wow, that's a wealth of information to read. I am going to give it a try over the course of the week. Thanks Adam.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
The SVS manual though small has all the info you need regarding the knobs at the back. Here is an excerpt,

Volume/Gain
Use “gain” (in conjunction with your receiver’s subwoofer output level control) to dial in a bass calibration to your liking. Start calibration with the sub’s volume/ gain no more than 1/4 to 1/3 of the way up (turned clockwise from the left).

Crossover Frequency.
If you use your DD/DTS receiver/processor’s internal crossover to manage bass frequencies (highly recommended), the setting of this knob on the sub is irrelevant. (Note: Use the SVS’s crossover “Enable/Disable” switch discussed below to take advantage of this configuration.) Otherwise this knob is used to best blend your SVS to your other speakers. Typically used in stereo only systems today.

Phase.
Think of bass waves as conflicting or enhancing each other, depending on the timing of their arrival at your listening location (either together, or not). Since some of your room’s bass might come from main, center and/or surround speakers, as well as your sub, getting these bass wave forms to arrive in a complementary, enhancing fashion is the difficult job of the phase control. Essentially, “phase” varies the timing of the bass waves coming from the sub. But don’t despair if you don’t hear much difference with changes to the phase knob, the effect of bass cancellation will vary by volume and frequency in your room, and no single setting is likely to ever be “perfect”. One simple technique to optimize phase is to find a nice “bassy” loop (such as the menu of “Godzilla”) and measure the loop’s SPL response at various bass peaks. As the loop runs, you can have an assistant adjust the phase control. When you see the most response on a given bass passage, typically that’s the setting with the least room-induced cancellation (for the frequencies of the demo loop).

Line In/Out.
Use one of the sub’s “Line In” jacks to connect the subwoofer to the output jack of your receiver/processor. Feeding just one input is enough. If you are using a conventional amp and/or a stereo setup you can use the “Line Out” jacks to send sound (filtered of bass information) back to your system amp. A simple RCA to RCA cable is all you need.

Auto On.
Your Powered Box allows itself to be in an “auto on” mode or on all the time. With the switch in the “Auto” position your subwoofer will “sense” that a DVD or CD etc. has begun and switch on immediately (the “hard” power switch mentioned below must be on naturally). A few minutes after a movie, the auto-on light will turn red, switching the sub back off. When running (and sensing a signal) the auto-on LED will be green. Sometimes, with very low listening levels, your subwoofer might not get enough of a bass signal from your surround sound processor to “trip” the auto-on circuit. Should you ever find this to be the case you may leave this switch to “On”, or turn the receiver’s subwoofer output up, and the sub down.

Crossover Enable Switch.
If you allow your DD/DTS surround-sound receiver or processor to manage bass frequencies (recommended), this switch should be set to “Disabled”. This disables the “Crossover Frequency” knob and allows your sub to reproduce just what it’s fed from the receiver. If you use the sub in a two channel (stereo only) configuration, then “Enable” the crossover and adjust the associated knob to best blend the sub into the low frequency output of your speakers. High level inputs/outputs. Not commonly used today, but binding posts are there in case you don’t have low-level inputs/outputs on your receiver/processor. Typically utilized only if you are not using a DD/DTS compatible system.

Power.
This heavy duty two-position switch next to the power cord will completely cut the power to your sub amp. Flip this switch to off before you ever move the sub or change inputs or outputs.

A/C connection.
Plug your sub into a dedicated A/C outlet. “Convenience” outlets of typical receivers often don’t provide the needed current. Avoid them.

Fuse.
User replaceable, contact SVS if you have trouble finding one.
 
jamespaulp

jamespaulp

Audioholic Intern
Thanks, I have already gone through it multiple times. The problem was how to use all those controls in tandem to get a good bass. Individual descriptions are pretty good, but it did not help me to do an overall setup.
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
Once you have the levels set and such, I would suggest setting the crosover on the sub about 10hz or so above the point at which you set it on the reciever. This "staggering" of the crossovers can have great results with blending the sub and speakers.

For instance, if your crossover is set to 80hz on the receiver, set the sub crossover to 90hz or 100hz. Switch between enable and disable to see if you notice a benefit.

I did it with my system and it worked excellent.
 
jamespaulp

jamespaulp

Audioholic Intern
annunaki, the manual says "If you allow your DD/DTS surround-sound receiver or processor to manage bass frequencies (recommended), this switch should be set to “Disabled”.

Am I missing something? I am using LFE to connect to the sub.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
annunaki, the manual says "If you allow your DD/DTS surround-sound receiver or processor to manage bass frequencies (recommended), this switch should be set to “Disabled”.

Am I missing something? I am using LFE to connect to the sub.
In some lower end subs, the option to bypass the crossover is not present. Annunaki's advise was for this situation.

In your case, you should put the switch to "Disable" on the sub and set the crossover in the receiver.
 

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