Help please

[ParadigmDawg]

Carolyn wants me to put inceilings in the bedroom this weekend. I am uncertain the best method to use here so help me out.

I would either like to use zone 2 which controls my patio speakers or "B" speakers from the AVR.

If I use zone two would I need to use impedance matched volume controls on the patio and in the bedroom? Can you provide breif details on how this wired so I can grab all the stuff with one trip.

If I use "B" from the AVR I know it will only do "same source" but I dont think I will run into an issue impedance because my mains are connected through an external amp -or- will "b" even work since I use an external amp from the pre-outs?

 

[MDS]

I would use zone 2 with impedance matching VCs in each room. You'll have to splice all the wires together since you have only 2 speaker terminals for zone 2. The VC has 4 inputs and 4 outputs so the easiest way is to run 4 conductor wire from the VC in each room to the receiver location.

 

[Nomo]

Something to keep in mind as well Greg:
Before you got yourself into the AV doghouse with the latest speaker purchase You were considering the RX-V1800. Unlike the 659 or my previous receiver, the 1500; the 1800 does not have B speakers. Not a real smooth by Yamaha, although not an issue for me.
If you still are considering the 1800, go with the zone 2 plan.

 

[engtaz]

I can say nothing about Favre. Tampering charges. LOL

engtaz

 

[ParadigmDawg]

But the 1800 has 3 zones so it wouldnt be an issue.

Something to keep in mind as well Greg:
Before you got yourself into the AV doghouse with the latest speaker purchase You were considering the RX-V1800. Unlike the 659 or my previous receiver, the 1500; the 1800 does not have B speakers. Not a real smooth by Yamaha, although not an issue for me.
If you still are considering the 1800, go with the zone 2 plan.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Ok, to make this simple, I think I will just run zone two to the bedroom and put the patio on "b" as my patio is all brick and it is going to be difficult to properly mount the VC out there. We seldom use the patio speakers and if when we do, we have the main system off.

Now if I do this, this is no need for impedance matching VCs ...correct?

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I ended up going with these. They should do just fine for her background music.
http://www.surroundsolutions.com/cgi-bin/surroundsolutions.cgi/00711.html?prod=SpeakerCraft CRS6 One
I cant even begin to explain how hot it is in a Texas attic right now.

 

[gus6464]

I ended up going with these. They should do just fine for her background music.
http://www.surroundsolutions.com/cgi-bin/surroundsolutions.cgi/00711.html?prod=SpeakerCraft CRS6 One
I cant even begin to explain how hot it is in a Texas attic right now.

You could also check out Mirage Omnicans if it's for just background music. Their omnipolar configuration fills a room with ease much better than some speakercrafts I have heard.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-a4whAiI1sBQ/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=653OMCAN65

They are double the price of the Speakercraft though

 

[ParadigmDawg]

The SC sound really good. The install took way longer than it should have but I ran into a couple of issue with clearance in the first spot I tried them. Anyone know how to patch drywall?

 

[jcPanny]

Drywall repair

Greg,
Enjoy the new speakers. I know what you mean about running wiring in the attic in the middle of the summer.

1. To do the drywall patch, you need something sturctural to attach the drywall piece to so you can:
A. Make the patch location bigger by cutting over to a stud or
B. Make a support across the patch location with a small board (1x4, ect.) You can do this from the attic or from the room and patch the screw locations.
2. Take one of the drywall circles you cut out for the speaker, it is probably the right size for the patch location.
3. Attach to the support with a couple screws.
4. Fill in the gaps and screw locations with drywall compound.
5. If necessary, get a sray can of drywall texture and add a little texture to the repair area.
6. Bring in the other circular cutout to the home center and have them match the paint. Pain the repair area.

Good luck,
- JC

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Thanks man, gonna try it in a few minutes. I didnt cut of the whole circle, I started my cut and had a bad feeling so I just cut a small triangle about three inches on each side and did some more exploring. I was thinking I could patch it with mesh and joint compound and then spray with drywall texture. Do you think this will work with a small hole?

Greg,
Enjoy the new speakers. I know what you mean about running wiring in the attic in the middle of the summer.

1. To do the drywall patch, you need something sturctural to attach the drywall piece to so you can:
A. Make the patch location bigger by cutting over to a stud or
B. Make a support across the patch location with a small board (1x4, ect.) You can do this from the attic or from the room and patch the screw locations.
2. Take one of the drywall circles you cut out for the speaker, it is probably the right size for the patch location.
3. Attach to the support with a couple screws.
4. Fill in the gaps and screw locations with drywall compound.
5. If necessary, get a sray can of drywall texture and add a little texture to the repair area.
6. Bring in the other circular cutout to the home center and have them match the paint. Pain the repair area.

Good luck,
- JC

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Here is the final install. Turned out pretty good and I really like these speakers.

 

[adk highlander]

Greg for a ceiling I would say yes. I have patched a couple of small holes using just tape and joint compound. Heck this was a cheap way to fix holes in the wall in college apartments back in the day.

Nice choice of speakers. I was looking at those but ended up going with the Polk TC60i. They have a 15 degree woofer offset and adjustable tweeter.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I didnt really even research the speakers. She just wanted them for background music and I was going to go with something cheap like the Dayton or Phoenix Gold but I have always wanted to try some SCs.

Greg for a ceiling I would say yes. I have patched a couple of small holes using just tape and joint compound. Heck this was a cheap way to fix holes in the wall in college apartments back in the day.

Nice choice of speakers. I was looking at those but ended up going with the Polk TC60i. They have a 15 degree woofer offset and adjustable tweeter.

 

[gus6464]

Greg do those SCs come in an enclosure?

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Nope, unless you count the attic

Greg do those SCs come in an enclosure?

 

[Alex2507]

Greg,
Check your PM's. If you still need help, I'm here for you man. A 3" hole on a ceiling is gonna need more than tape and mud.
I can talk you through this.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Can someone tell me the install looks clean or something. I worked hard and need a pat on the back!

 

[GlocksRock]

I would tell you, but I can't see the pics... photobucket is blocked from my work, which is where I spend most of my time on this forum... But I'm sure it looks and sounds great!

 

[mazersteven]

Greg do those SCs come in an enclosure?

No enclosure for you.