HELP pick my PLASMA! Help Needed Hitachi - 55HDT79 55 or the PIONEER PDP-5070HD

[shaq32]

Arrow HELP NEEDED! Hitachi - 55HDT79 55 or the PIONEER PDP-5070HD ? ? ? ? HELP!
I know the Pioneer is a Great TV but I see the Hitachi at about the same price and 5in. bigger! but I have yet to be able to see the 55HDT79 for myself and I don't see any good review on line for the Hitachi.

What do you guys think? looking for a Great Bright screen with good colors.

I was looking at the Sharp 52" LCD for the 1080p but people have told me at 7 ft you will not be able to tell and that the Plasma still for look better at 720p then a 1080p LCD plus I was seeing all the bad review on the sharp with banding problems.

SO I would love to hear what you guys think and feel on these?

I will be running PS3 and alot of D-TV.

Please your input would be a great help.

Thanks

 

[shaq32]

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[evilkat]

The Pioneers are incredible sets and have consistently been the best sets I've ever seen. De-interlacing tests show that they are among the incredibly few (sadly) TVs that de-interlace TV signals properly. I would have no hesitation recommending their sets to you because I would have definitely bought one, if not for $$$ exchange it involved

I've seen a lot of sites that claim that at 7ft and beyond you need at least a 60" TV to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, so go figure. Frankly, I don't think there's much of a *perceived* improvement in PQ when you go from 720p to 1080p. Since the only sources of 1080p at the moment come from BD/HD (and possibly the PS3, although there seems to be some controversy over this), and since I am not prepared to own a movie library where I have the same movie in 3 different formats, I don't see the point of 1080p and I don't think it's going to go mainstream for the next 5 years at least, because that's probably how long this format war will last for (pure speculation of course).

Since you're a console gamer though, be vary of the burn-in/image-retention issue you might run into with plasmas. You might want to consider an LCD set or a DLP (which can be had for cheaper with a bigger screen to boot!). If you're careful with your TV though and take it out of 'torch mode' when you use it, I don't think you will go wrong with the Pioneer, provided u can afford it

 

[WmAx]

Arrow HELP NEEDED! Hitachi - 55HDT79 55 or the PIONEER PDP-5070HD ? ? ? ? HELP!
I know the Pioneer is a Great TV but I see the Hitachi at about the same price and 5in. bigger! but I have yet to be able to see the 55HDT79 for myself and I don't see any good review on line for the Hitachi.

What do you guys think? looking for a Great Bright screen with good colors.

I was looking at the Sharp 52" LCD for the 1080p but people have told me at 7 ft you will not be able to tell and that the Plasma still for look better at 720p then a 1080p LCD plus I was seeing all the bad review on the sharp with banding problems.

SO I would love to hear what you guys think and feel on these?

I will be running PS3 and alot of D-TV.

Please your input would be a great help.

Thanks

Check the forums to make sure that model Hitachi is not one of the ones known to have the non-user defeatable dynamic contrast problem, where brightness/contrast changes on different scenes regardless of how you set up the television. I have come across such televisions before, and personally, I am disgusted by them.

-Chris

 

[WmAx]

Since you're a console gamer though, be vary of the burn-in/image-retention issue you might run into with plasmas. You might want to consider an LCD set or a DLP (which can be had for cheaper with a bigger screen to boot!). If you're careful with your TV though and take it out of 'torch mode' when you use it, I don't think you will go wrong with the Pioneer, provided u can afford it

From the statements by supposed experts, image burn-in is no more of a problem with plasma than it is with CRT. If one was not worried about it on CRT, then I don't see a reason to be concerned on plasma, based on these 'experts'. However, it is routinely stated that the first few hours(100 or so) are when the televisions are most likely to have burn in problems -- and apparently no static images should be used within this initial window.

-Chris

 

[evilkat]

From the statements by supposed experts, image burn-in is no more of a problem with plasma than it is with CRT. If one was not worried about it on CRT, then I don't see a reason to be concerned on plasma, based on these 'experts'. However, it is routinely stated that the first few hours(100 or so) are when the televisions are most likely to have burn in problems -- and apparently no static images should be used within this initial window.

-Chris

I agree with you...I think the IR/burn-in thing is a bit overblown by people...which is why I went for a Panny x60U plasma (hope to have it delivered next week!). While not a console gamer, I do plan to hook up my PC to it and do some mild gaming on it...and honestly, after the first 100 hrs, I am not expecting to see any serious effects on the screen....maybe some minor IR or something.

 

[Thunder18]

I've read that the newer Pioneer's have some kind of anti-burn in solution built-in. I don't remember the exact details, but if you go to Pioneer's website and look under Plasma tv's you'll find the info about it.

 

[WmAx]

I agree with you...I think the IR/burn-in thing is a bit overblown by people...which is why I went for a Panny x60U plasma (hope to have it delivered next week!). While not a console gamer, I do plan to hook up my PC to it and do some mild gaming on it...and honestly, after the first 100 hrs, I am not expecting to see any serious effects on the screen....maybe some minor IR or something.

I just got one of those Panasonic plasma units as well; the image quality(after adjustment of settings) so far as contrast linearity, tonal reproduction and black level is not far from a high quality CRT, so close in fact, that the difference is irrelevant, IMO. I have noticed, however, that the Panasonic sharpening system does not seem as effective as that used by Samsung's latest units, for example. The Panasonic sharpening system seems to create more pronounced halos around high contrast subjects, as well as result in some sort of plastic/clay-looking effect on human faces, if you use the sharpening on default levels. In comparison, the latest Samsung plasma examples appear to be able to adjust the sharpening system more agressively without the same severity of negative effects on the image quality.

-Chris

 

[chadd]

pioneer!!!!

I have one and love it. Everyone that sees it loves it. I had one problem with some pink lines, you can check my previous posts for that. Good luck!

 

[evilkat]

I just got one of those Panasonic plasma units as well; the image quality(after adjustment of settings) so far as contrast linearity, tonal reproduction and black level is not far from a high quality CRT, so close in fact, that the difference is irrelevant, IMO. I have noticed, however, that the Panasonic sharpening system does not seem as effective as that used by Samsung's latest units, for example. The Panasonic sharpening system seems to create more pronounced halos around high contrast subjects, as well as result in some sort of plastic/clay-looking effect on human faces, if you use the sharpening on default levels. In comparison, the latest Samsung plasma examples appear to be able to adjust the sharpening system more agressively without the same severity of negative effects on the image quality.

-Chris

Hmmm, maybe I can turn down the sharpening on the Panny and mess with FFDShow in order to get some of the detail back into the picture. I have heard that the Samsung DLPs perform the best AFTER calibration, but the Pannys are cheap and I'm not a big fan of DLP.