Help Me with next receiver

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Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
well i am sure there are hundreds of post cover "my next receiver" but i have specific needs/wants and i was hoping you guys could point my the right direction...

here are my needs...

Componet switching
Dolby DTS
digital inputs

wants
mayby if it doesnt add too much to the price,, multi room/zone audio&video



i currantly have and older Onkyo DS777 and i LOVE it.. the only real reason to up grade is for componets and i have been tossing around the idea of turning my four seasond room into a hut tub/mild theater room thats where the multi zone would come into play.. that and maybe a DVD mega changer of some kind...

but i do have to say i am pretty brand loyal to Onkyo.. not sure why.. but i have never been disipointed by them.. but i have been reading alot about Denon...

and i would say my buget is 1500 maybe more if its really needed...


Anyhow... Thanks Everyone!!
:)
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
How many component video devices? You pretty much summed up every receiver on the market in your price range with those needs, so it is going to come down to some of your other requirements like how big is your room and what speakers are you driving with it?

Marantz 8500 would be worth a listen. Harman Kardon 7300. I believe Rotel has a receiver at that price point also. For Onkyo, that would be the TX-NR901 (but word is the 903 is coming soon).
 
avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
I would strongly recommend the Denon AVR - 3805.
Just got mine last week and tell you what: fantastic!

Had the opportunity to perform a comparison against the Yammie RX-V 2500 and the Onkyo 702. All 3 brands are excellent, but IMHO Denon sounds best.

Cheers / Avliner.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
well right now i have the Energy Take 5 speaker set.. but that will be moved out to the "hot tub room" and i have alwas wanted a set of NHTs so thats what ill be getting.. i have evan been tosing around the idea of a 5 or 6 channel amp.. but i am not sure if thats really cost effective or not...

and as of right now its a really odd shapped room.. its the lower level of my split level home... its about 8' wide maybe and 30' long...

and as for the amout of componets.. can you have to many? lol i would say as many as i can get... bet as of now i only need 2 sets one for Xbox and one for DVD player.. in the future i know ill need on for HDTV and what ever else comes out..

and keep in ind just because my buget it 1500 +/- doesnt me i have to soend that much.. that would be awsome if i could get away spending under 1000...
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Based on the features you want and your brand loyalty to Onkyo, I would say the TX-SR702 is what you want (703 is rumored to be out 'soon').

The NR-801 just adds NetTune (streaming mp3/wma to the receiver) but that task is better accomplished with an external device like a Squeezebox2. The 901 is way overkill and while it has slightly more power all it really adds is a whole lot more inputs that will go unused. The 702 is the sweet spot of the Onkyo line. You can download the manual from http://www.onkyousa.com.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
that sr702 defenatly makes my wallet smille.. i am looking at ones on ebay that say factory sealed for under 500...
 
droeses58

droeses58

Audioholic
If you don't mind waiting, you might also consider the Outlaw 1070 [$899] , I think they just started sending those units out. [first come first serve] I'm on the waiting list and can't wait to compare to my h/k .
 
X

Xsound

Full Audioholic
You may also want to check out the new Pioneer Elite VSX-74txi. They replace the vsx-56txi, which only had to component inputs. The 74 has 3 component in, as well as 2 in 1 out HDMI upconversion. They are out now, with a list price of $1500. In another month or 2 you may be able to find them significantly less.

some places are running discounts on the VSX-56txi if you think you can live with 2 component ins.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
John A is here in Cbus and has the HK 7300, and I have the Denon 3805. If you'd like to demo either one, I'm sure it could be arranged.

The Onkyo 7 series are fine units, and will perform well past your expectations. You'll need to decide if upgrading to a newer unit with HDMI connections is worth it. Most of the new HD cable/satellite boxes use HDMI. My Time Warner 8300HD box has an HDMI output, but I'm forced to use component for now with the Denon 3805. I stil get a great picture, but 1 cable instead of 4 would be nice.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
i was thinking about it today... how exactly does (for example Onkyo) selectable Zones work? if i want to watch a dvd on say my bed room tv.. would i have to run a set of componet cables 150' to my reciever?

and anouther thing i have been thinking about.. is i 97% of the time watch movies so would i save any money buy just some kind of dolby/DTS decoder and say.. 7 ch amp( i know these are pricey) but is it possible? or would it be better to just have everything in one box ie a reciever
 
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M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Sounds Good said:
i was thinking about it today... how exactly does (for example Onkyo) selectable Zones work? if i want to watch a dvd on say my bed room tv.. would i have to run a set of componet cables 150' to my reciever?
It depends on which Onkyo you have (or will buy), but nearly all receivers with multiple zones have two options for powering the second zone:
1. Use the internal amps of the receiver. If it's a 7.1 receiver, you can send a stereo signal to zone 2 and retain 5.1 in the main zone. If it's not 7.1 you can send stereo to zone 2 and have stereo in the main zone. Using the internal amps, you just need to get speaker wire to the zone 2 location.

2. Zone 2 pre-outs. You can connect an external amplifier to drive zone2. You would have to run audio cables to zone2 and connect to the external amp. You then connect the speakers to the external amp.

Receivers that offer video for zone2 usually only support composite or s-video for zone2 and you would have to run a long cable to the display device in zone2.


Sounds Good said:
and anouther thing i have been thinking about.. is i 97% of the time watch movies so would i save any money buy just some kind of dolby/DTS decoder and say.. 7 ch amp( i know these are pricey) but is it possible? or would it be better to just have everything in one box ie a reciever
An external decoder does nothing but decode. You still need a pre-amp for source selection and volume control. A receiver contains the decoders, pre-amp, power amps, and radio tuner all in one box. The options are:
1. Pre-amp (will contain decoders) + power amp
2. Receiver
3. Receiver + external amp(s).

A single receiver is the easiest route.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Receiver as Pre-Amp

The Yamaha RX-V2500 and Denon 3805 both make a great pre-amp. I would buy the receiver first, and evaluate its power in your room with your speaker setup. If you are driving something perticularly demading, like fronts with an impedence of 4 ohms, then you could add a 2 channel or multi channel amp.

There are several threads concerning the Yamaha used as a preamp with the emotiva 7 channel amplifier.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Multizone

On all receivers except for a few flagship models, the multizone feature only deals with audio routing, and not video.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
well its been a whille since i have posted... and i think i have nailed down a plan...

i think i am going to go with the Outlaw 1070 mostly for the price and secondly for the DVI switching... that way i would be covered for a few years...
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Receiver upgrade

A Yamaha RX-V2500 would have all the features you need and would come in well under budget. Keep in mind that the Zone 2 feature on receivers. is for 2.0 channel audio in another room, not 5.1 channel HT.

If you sub has speaker level inputs then you could run 2.1 to the hot tup room. Otherwise your best bet would be using the existing receiver and a cheep DVD player for the other room.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
i have desided to ditch the idea of multi zone in favor of less price and more features in the main room....
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
i went to Denon's website, and they have a search feature where you tell it what type of listing you do and it shows you the recievers that fit the bill...

well it showed me that the ARV-2106 fits the bill for me.. anyone know anything about this reciever, its msrp is 699 which is a REALLY high WAF...

if it helps, my speaker set up will be, NHT Super Audio ST4,SC2,SB2 and a SV Sub PB12 Plus2


Thanks Guys
 
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jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Receiver options

If you like Denon, you should be able to find the 3805 for about the same price ($700) because it is last years model. It is comparable in features, performance, and price to the Yamaha RX-V2500.
 
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