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Sax-Fan

Junior Audioholic
I am still using a plasma TV - so no 4K, - but eventually I suspect I will buy a new TV (how long, I'm not sure, due to a number of uncertainties). In looking at AVRs today, is HDR10+ something I should concern myself with for "future proofing"? Everything seems to have HDR10 and Dolby Vision support, but only the most recent AVRs seem to support HDR10+.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I'd only worry about passing thru the bandwidth needed to accommodate....but don't have an answer for you if the 4kHD capable avrs that seem to be fairly common need more for 10+....
 
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Sax-Fan

Junior Audioholic
I'd only worry about passing thru the bandwidth needed to accommodate....but don't have an answer for you if the 4kHD capable avrs that seem to be fairly common need more for 10+....
Thanks. I noticed, for example, that the Denon 3600h says it supports HDR10, while the 3700h says it supports HDR10 and HDR10+. As I understand it, the TV also has to support it and only certain manufacturers have jumped on board. I suppose if I had a TV that supported it but not an AVR, I might be able to connect the input device to the TV and then use eARC to run to the AVR.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
HDR10+ seems to be on all the AVRs with HDMI2.1.

Of course these same AVRs use the same chipset that has the HDMI2.1 bug for passing thru uncompressed 4K/120fps and 8k/60fps video from the new Xbox and possibly other sources.

Hard to recommend buying something that will need repairs.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
So even for passthrough there is something that needs compatibility in the avr? I guess that's not surprising with the drm schemes....

ps see in one article they're describing the difference between hdr10 and 10+ being the difference between static metadata and dynamic metadata. Eh?
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Wasn't 10+ a Samsung only thing for a while?... or just their dice roll on HDR technology?
I know it was the competitor to Dolby Vision, which took off pretty well. 10+ still seems to be dragging, though it has gained more acceptance recently.
 
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Sax-Fan

Junior Audioholic
So even for passthrough there is something that needs compatibility in the avr? I guess that's not surprising with the drm schemes....

ps see in one article they're describing the difference between hdr10 and 10+ being the difference between static metadata and dynamic metadata. Eh?
Yes, seems like.

No idea what that means. lol
 
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Sax-Fan

Junior Audioholic
Wasn't 10+ a Samsung only thing for a while?... or just their dice roll on HDR technology?
I know it was the competitor to Dolby Vision, which took off pretty well. 10+ still seems to be dragging, though it has gained more acceptance recently.
Yes. From what I've been reading it was Samsung's technology and some other's are picking it up, but not all TVs are compatible (Not available on Sony, for example). Evidently it is "open" and there is no licensing fees involved like with Dolby so maybe more tempting for some. Dolby Vision, however is 12 bit, so better? I don't know. As far as content, I believe HDR10+ is available through Amazon Prime video.

Trying to understand and stay on top of these formats is really difficult.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Yes. From what I've been reading it was Samsung's technology and some other's are picking it up, but not all TVs are compatible (Not available on Sony, for example). Evidently it is "open" and there is no licensing fees involved like with Dolby so maybe more tempting for some. Dolby Vision, however is 12 bit, so better? I don't know. As far as content, I believe HDR10+ is available through Amazon Prime video.

Trying to understand and stay on top of these formats is really difficult.
Well if the future Samsung Quantum Dot OLED hybrid 8K TVs they are developing turn out to be better than LG in the next couple years, maybe HDR10+ ends up mattering if that’s the best TV. Or maybe Samsung goes to Dolby Vision and abandons HDR10+ by then. Or another new dynamic HDR comes out.

Bottomline, after you buy a TV, buy a compatible AVR shortly afterwards. This is the way. :)
 

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