HD tv is progressive scan in itself?

[Jake123]

When I bough my HD TV, the first thing that came to mind is i need to update my old dvd player and get one with progressive scan if i want to reap the benefit of my new Hi Def television. The salesman told me not to worry cause my HD tv is progressive in itself and since i paid 2500.00$ for it, my new tv would do a better job in deinterlacing the video compared to a 150$ dvd player. But of course some web site seem to say otherwise.
Is there any truth to this?

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

You can have a CRT HD set that is not progressive, but high definition. 1080i is interlaced. 720p is progressive. Standard DVD's are recorded in 480i (interlaced). What is the native resolution of your set?

If you want optimum quality dvd playback, there are two new formats coming out this year. HD-DVD and Blu-ray which will play movies in full high definition. The HD-DVD players are expensive, and will start just under $500. Blu-ray will be twice that price. Your set should have an HDMI connection to take advantage of the new technology.

If you're not ready to spend that type of cash on new technology, I'd recommend something like this:

http://www.oppodigital.com/

This is also a very good player:

Panasonic DVD-S97S Progressive Scan DVD Player with HDMI

 

[Jake123]

HD is progressive

I have a grand wega tv wich is 1080i and 720p. All i can say is that picture is very good on dvd's but not excellent. And yes, can't wait for that Blue Ray or the HD dvd's to come out but the price you've given me must be u.s cause I heard around 800$ for the HD dvd and over1000$ for the Blue Ray. D'ont know which one i'll go for, guess i'll wait to see what others go for.

 

[BMXTRIX]

jake - The answer to your question is a big fat 'it depends'.

Your CRT televsion (no model number given) is likely a interlaced only display, but may display at 480i, 480p, and 1080i. It is very unlikely that it displays at 720p. (yes, it accepts 720p, but don't confuse that with it actually displaying at 720p)

Anyway, with Sony's reputation of not having some of the best scaling or deinterlacing it would probably make sense to get a DVD player like the Oppo, Panny S77 or S97, and hooking it up via HDMI/DVI cables to your TV for best results.

Especially if your DVD player is so old that it doesn't have progessive scan output.

I would recommend a new DVD player, and please, always include an exact model number for any product you are asking about as it will help others make the best recommendations for you.

In comparison, a good Panasonic plasma may have excellent scaling and deinterlacing - plasmas, LCDs, LCoS, DLP are all progressive scan formats by their nature. CRT is the only mass product that displays interlaced signals as properly interlaced.

 

[MDS]

Anyway, with Sony's reputation of not having some of the best scaling or deinterlacing it would probably make sense to get a DVD player like the Oppo, Panny S77 or S97, and hooking it up via HDMI/DVI cables to your TV for best results.

Is that your opinion of Sony TVs? I would think just the opposite - Sony TVs, especially LCDs, appear to do the best on standard definition signals but no TV is perfect.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Is that your opinion of Sony TVs? I would think just the opposite - Sony TVs, especially LCDs, appear to do the best on standard definition signals but no TV is perfect.

Not that they're the authority, but Consumer Reports thought so, too.

 

[BMXTRIX]

Is that your opinion of Sony TVs? I would think just the opposite - Sony TVs, especially LCDs, appear to do the best on standard definition signals but no TV is perfect.

Not even my opinion - just from some of the stuff that I have read, so I hold no value in it other than it being noteworthy to be aware that any manufacturer can have a poor aspect to an otherwise excellent product. Even within the same category (TVs) Sony could have some that do an excellent job and some that do a horrible job. Most of my reading is in their projectors and DVD players (upconverting) which consistently get low scores for deinterlacing.

My opinion? Almost everything from Sony looks pretty good and I'm not complaining about my 2 Sony DVD players or my older Sony VCR... and definitely not my camcorder.

 

[rumble]

I have a grand wega tv wich is 1080i and 720p. All i can say is that picture is very good on dvd's but not excellent. And yes, can't wait for that Blue Ray or the HD dvd's to come out but the price you've given me must be u.s cause I heard around 800$ for the HD dvd and over1000$ for the Blue Ray. D'ont know which one i'll go for, guess i'll wait to see what others go for.

You may want to wait a while for the Blue Ray or HD dvd stuff. If the major studios have their way you won't be able to get high def output from either player unless your tv supports the latest hdmi standard(1.3). I don't think any sets yet have implemented it so you are probably looking at replacing your wega. Of course you can still elect to spend big bucks on the player and the hi def media and let the player automatically downscale the output to the equivalent of a standard dvd player....

 

[Jake123]

another type of connection?

You're must be kidding, not another type of connection! When will they stop. D'ont they know that those stupide cable are expensive and that's beside the fact that everything i bought will be practically useless in a few year from now. What's wrong with regular HDMI for pete sake, it was suppose to be best cable for outstanding video and audio quality.

 

[Pyrrho]

You're must be kidding, not another type of connection! When will they stop. D'ont they know that those stupide cable are expensive and that's beside the fact that everything i bought will be practically useless in a few year from now. What's wrong with regular HDMI for pete sake, it was suppose to be best cable for outstanding video and audio quality.

You seem to be under the impression that electronics companies are interested in giving you good pictures and sound. Please allow me to disabuse you of that mistaken opinion. They are interested in making money, and if you never need to upgrade anything, then they don't make any more money. So it is in their best interests to keep things changing all of the time to get you to keep buying new products. Of course, they do not advertise it that way, as it would not help promote sales. Instead, they tout the benefits of their new technology, and tell you how much better it is than the old crap they conned you into buying before. Lest anyone imagine that the word "conned" is too strong, consider the fact that early HDTVs were sold with component HD inputs, and people were told that they would be able to input HD signals, but now the new formats are being made such that they may not allow HD signals to be sent via component connections. If, after considering that, one imagines that it is not a con, pray, tell me what could be more of a con than a promise that is not delivered? It is the very essence of a con to fail to deliver on a promise made. Without such a failure, there is no con.

 

[rumble]

You're must be kidding, not another type of connection! When will they stop. D'ont they know that those stupide cable are expensive and that's beside the fact that everything i bought will be practically useless in a few year from now. What's wrong with regular HDMI for pete sake, it was suppose to be best cable for outstanding video and audio quality.

The good news is your expensive hdmi cable will work fine. They are not changing the connector or the cable. The bad news is the hdmi connection on your tv will need to be replaced. And seeing how they are pretty well connected to each other, you will need to replace entire tv.

What's right with regular hdmi? Who here needs to send high quality video and Audio to their display device? Anyone? Bueller?

Do you think they are changing the hdmi communication protocol to benefit the consumer? The only reason they are making the change is to prevent us from hooking up hardware that can make hi def recordings.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

The good news is your expensive hdmi cable will work fine. They are not changing the connector or the cable. The bad news is the hdmi connection on your tv will need to be replaced. And seeing how they are pretty well connected to each other, you will need to replace entire tv.

What's right with regular hdmi? Who here needs to send high quality video and Audio to their display device? Anyone? Bueller?

Do you think they are changing the hdmi communication protocol to benefit the consumer? The only reason they are making the change is to prevent us from hooking up hardware that can make hi def recordings.

Rumble - greetings from the northeast side.

I'm not so sure TV's will need to be replaced to pass HD content just yet. No, they won't be able to display true 1080p from a Blu-ray or PS3 player, but you may see cable/satellite boxes that can upgrade version 1.1 to 1.3 internally.

You may also see a small box that modifies version 1.1 to 1.3 so those who've invested in the lastest receivers with HDMI version 1.1 can upgrade to 1.3 externally, after the HDMI cable and before the AVR or TV. It's just a guess, but all we're talking about are different types of filters.

HD copy protection is one of the few ways Hollywood can maintain hard disc sales, and avoid pirated copies. Techies will figure it out one way or another, but the big studios will do everything in their power to avoid it.

Thus as Rumble pointed out, the reason for making so many upgrades and changes.