HD cable TV thru DVD Recorder

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rpred

Audiophyte
Need Help.
Trying to accomplish hooking up HDMI cable out of my HD cable box, supplied by my cable company, into my DVD recorder so that I can record tv (in standard def) and watch tv in high def. I can't find any dvd recorders with HDMI or even Component cable input, only avail as output with upconverting. None that I could find even with HDMI pass thru. My goal is to be able to record TV in dvd standard def but also be able to watch tv in high def without having to swap cables every time I want to record tv. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
ou need to experiment a bit to answer that question.

First off, is there a composite video (yellow jack) output on the HD cable box?

If yes, can you feed this to an auxillary input on your DVD recorder and record a SD program? I doubt a HD program would do too well bt hey, give it a go and see what happens. I'm curious myself.

If you can, in fact, record a SD program in SD, your HD TV should allow an SD input through some composite input. But, it won't be in HD. ...never will.

I can play a VHS through my HDTV so I doubt it'll be a problem for you.
 
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rpred

Audiophyte
Coax support HD?

Need Help.
Trying to accomplish hooking up HDMI cable out of my HD cable box, supplied by my cable company, into my DVD recorder so that I can record tv (in standard def) and watch tv in high def. I can't find any dvd recorders with HDMI or even Component cable input, only avail as output with upconverting. None that I could find even with HDMI pass thru. My goal is to be able to record TV in dvd standard def but also be able to watch tv in high def without having to swap cables every time I want to record tv. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Does coax cable support HD? Upto 1080i or 1080p?
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
No, but what do you mean by "coax cable"?

Does coax cable support HD? Upto 1080i or 1080p?
There are many different varieties.

Coax cable, when used in a "component" configuration (three cables, one each red, green, and blue) can support up to and including 1080i resolution.

Coax cable in a "composite" configuration (one yellow cable) can support up to and including 480. I know it supports 480i but not sure about 480p.

The stuff that feeds your cable or antenna into your house is coax cable also.

As far as I know, only both of the new HD DVD players can send 1080p and that requires an HDMI cable, but that's not for any technical reason aside from licensing agreements won't allow 1080p to be passed thru a component configuration.
 
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rpred

Audiophyte
Coax antenna cable

There are many different varieties.

Coax cable, when used in a "component" configuration (three cables, one each red, green, and blue) can support up to and including 1080i resolution.

Coax cable in a "composite" configuration (one yellow cable) can support up to and including 480. I know it supports 480i but not sure about 480p.

The stuff that feeds your cable or antenna into your house is coax cable also.

As far as I know, only both of the new HD DVD players can send 1080p and that requires an HDMI cable, but that's not for any technical reason aside from licensing agreements won't allow 1080p to be passed thru a component configuration.
I meant coax antenna cable (RG6). Will that support HD transmission? I assume it does since that is how the cable company brings it into my house. Correct?
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
I meant coax antenna cable (RG6). Will that support HD transmission? I assume it does since that is how the cable company brings it into my house. Correct?
Yes, but if you send it to a cable box you won't be able to get it back out of the cable box to the DVD recorder. That's why markw suggested trying the composite out. On most cable boxes all outputs are active at the same time and it might down-res the HD resolution and send it out the composite output to the DVD recorder.

It's not the *cable* that can't carry HD resolutions. Coax of all types are generally spec'ed to 3 GHz. It is the video format supported by the various connection types (composite, s-video, component) that won't pass certain resolutions. As markw mentioned, component video is perfectly capable of passing 1080p but most devices will not do it (there are a few exceptions).
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
If it's the RF output on the cable box you're asking about, rpred, then no, it will not give you an HD picture. The RF output is modulated to channel three or four and it is actually the lowest quality connection you can use from the cable box.

In my opinion, I think it would be much more simple if you got a DVR from your cable company. That would allow you to record two programs at once; two HD, two SD, or any combination of the two. You can also record one program and watch something else (both can be HD) or record two things and watch another recorded program.

You could archive recordings on a DVD recorder using the composite connection.
 
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