Got a Denon 3806 - Bi-amping question / Manual

avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
Hi there,

I got a pretty good deal at Tweeters and gave back my 3805 and got a brand new 3806 instead. I'll start setting it up by this weekend though.
In the meantime, after a brief reading at manual (sucks, as usual), I saw the bi-amping instructions, which seems to be quit simple now.

As far as I remember, when Clint wrote the 3805 review, he mentioned that it was possible to bi-amp the unit, with a much more complicated procedure.
Just want to be sure whether such procedure is that simple now (with the3806). I never bi-amped before, so I'll just try it to see if there's any difference in sound performance though.

Back to the instructions manual, it's amazing how Denon still persists in doing such a p*s (obviously written by a Japanese Electronic Engineer - in Japanese - and then translated to English by someone with a very poor knowledge in electronics...).

I've been a pretty happy Denon owner over the years, so I'm basically sure that the 3806 won't disappoint me at all (3805 was top notch as well).

Cheers / Avliner.
 
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sivadselim

Audioholic
got a link to the manual?

If it is simply a setting now, in the 3806's setup menus, to assign the spare amps to bi-amp duty, then the answer is yes, it's just that simple.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
Its pretty straight forward in the 3806. Navigate to the "Option Setup" menu and in here to the "Power Amp Assign" option. Using the Left or Right cursor buttons change the setting to "Front". Hit "Enter" for the change to be saved and exit out. Thats it and now you can bi-amp your Mains.
 
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audiofox

Full Audioholic
Does anyone know if it is possible to biamp using the internal amps for the mid/tweets and an outboard amp for the woofs?
 
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sivadselim

Audioholic
audiofox said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to biamp using the internal amps for the mid/tweets and an outboard amp for the woofs?
Do you mean use a separate internal amp (2 per speaker) for each one of the tweeters and mids and an outboard amp for the woofers, or just simply mono-wiring each speaker's tweeter/mid section with the internal amps (1 per speaker) and using an outboard amp for the woofers?

Either one is doable.

The former would be much more involved and probably not worth it. Are your speakers "tri-ampable"?

The latter would be fairly straight-forward and simple.
 
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Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
audiofox said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to biamp using the internal amps for the mid/tweets and an outboard amp for the woofs?
If you are using the internal crossovers in your speakers, what would be the point? If you want more power, just add an external amp like a carver or outlaw. Usually the 3806 does not need any help driving most speakers and does fine on it's own. There probably are some exceptions, but they would be uncommon I would think.

Nick
 
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Ganyonman

Audiophyte
Bi-amping a 3806 using 3805 instructions

I bought my Denon 3806 about a year ago and I am aware of the feature that allows assigning the surround back amps to the front speakers for bi-amping. However, I could swear that the bi-amping procedure discussed in this site for the 3805 (assigning zone 2 to front speakers) provided better performance since you could adjust the volume of the zone to achieve desired subwoofer output on the bi-amped front speakers. This is what I did and I am pleased with the sound but I'm curious if it was necessary.

Does this provide improved performance/flexibility or should I simply be using the pre-amp assign feature already available on the 3806 and save the zone 2amps for what they were orginally designed?
 
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JamesJ

Audiophyte
I am about to order a 3806 and wonder this as well, anyone know?

It would be nice to adjust the woofer on the front speakers...
 
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Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
From what I have read, there is little to no advantage to "bi-amp" the 3806 with itself. If I felt my 3806 was being over taxed by my speakers, I would go with an external amp. However, that is not the case for me.

Nick
 
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corey

Senior Audioholic
Giving up your surround backs doesn't make any sense. If you don't have surround backs, get them. If your 3806 can't drive your mains, get more efficient speakers or an amp for your mains.
 
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JamesJ

Audiophyte
Is there a way to bridge the extra channels? I just like the idea of the exrtra power, you can never have to much power!
 
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