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Jeabus

Audiophyte
<font color='#000000'>Hello All,

I have an Onkyo Sr-700 with the booze Acoustimass 16 speakers. &nbsp;I cannot get any good mids or highs out of these speakers!!! &nbsp;The background music sounds pretty good but the crispness and the clashes suck. &nbsp;You can hear the rumble in the explosions but no popping of the gunfire. &nbsp;Does anyone have any clue what I can do about this?
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Eric

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>The following is from:

AH Speaker guide


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Cubed Systems: While these systems may be very popular, they are by far some of the least accurate and worst sounding so called &quot;speaker systems&quot; devised. Although, most consumers do not realize this because these speakers are well marketed and their main emphasis is big sound in a very small footprint. I deliberately kept this topic separate to stress its importance. Avoid these types of speakers at all costs !!!! Most of them are basically two way system with an unpowered bandpass so called &quot;subwoofer&quot; which produces bass frequencies between 45Hz and 200Hz while the tiny cubed speakers produce frequencies between 280Hz and 13KHz. The problems with this system are as follows:

1) This so called &quot;subwoofer&quot; produces bass frequencies up to 200Hz, which are very directional and localizable and also contain some midrange frequencies critical to vocal reproduction. This sub does not produce bass frequencies that quality subwoofers are designed for (90Hz and below). Instead it over emphasizes midbass frequencies (50-80Hz) to give the illusion of bass to the unknowledgeable consumer in the demo room.

2) There is a gap of at least 80Hz in the crucial midbass / voice frequencies which is blatantly obvious while listening to vocal music.

3) The cubes cannot properly handle the midrange and high frequencies since they are too small to be adequate midranges and too large to be good tweeters. They roll off sharply at 13KHz, which is considerably below human hearing capabilities (20KHz) and have a deliberat bump between 7kHz to 9kHz to give the illusion of treble in a showroom floor. There are many alternative loudspeakers in this price range, and half the amount for that matter, which will clearly outperform them in every respect. If a small footprint is critical to your application, there are many quality satellite speaker systems with self-powered subs that will sound superior to these and cost the same or less. Let your ears be the judge in this matter rather than brand or employed marketing techniques. You will soon come to the realization and ask yourself how you every considered these cubed speakers from the beginning.

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Jeabus

Audiophyte
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Eric : <font color='#000000'>The following is from:

AH Speaker guide


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Cubed Systems: While these systems may be very popular, they are by far some of the least accurate and worst sounding so called &quot;speaker systems&quot; devised. Although, most consumers do not realize this because these speakers are well marketed and their main emphasis is big sound in a very small footprint. I deliberately kept this topic separate to stress its importance. Avoid these types of speakers at all costs !!!! Most of them are basically two way system with an unpowered bandpass so called &quot;subwoofer&quot; which produces bass frequencies between 45Hz and 200Hz while the tiny cubed speakers produce frequencies between 280Hz and 13KHz. The problems with this system are as follows:

1) This so called &quot;subwoofer&quot; produces bass frequencies up to 200Hz, which are very directional and localizable and also contain some midrange frequencies critical to vocal reproduction. This sub does not produce bass frequencies that quality subwoofers are designed for (90Hz and below). Instead it over emphasizes midbass frequencies (50-80Hz) to give the illusion of bass to the unknowledgeable consumer in the demo room.

2) There is a gap of at least 80Hz in the crucial midbass / voice frequencies which is blatantly obvious while listening to vocal music.

3) The cubes cannot properly handle the midrange and high frequencies since they are too small to be adequate midranges and too large to be good tweeters. They roll off sharply at 13KHz, which is considerably below human hearing capabilities (20KHz) and have a deliberat bump between 7kHz to 9kHz to give the illusion of treble in a showroom floor. There are many alternative loudspeakers in this price range, and half the amount for that matter, which will clearly outperform them in every respect. If a small footprint is critical to your application, there are many quality satellite speaker systems with self-powered subs that will sound superior to these and cost the same or less. Let your ears be the judge in this matter rather than brand or employed marketing techniques. You will soon come to the realization and ask yourself how you every considered these cubed speakers from the beginning.
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<font color='#000000'>So in other words..I'm screwed &nbsp;
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<font color='#008080'>Did you audition them in a perfectly-tuned booze room or something?

I fail to see how people expect a 2&quot; paper cone to produce all frequencies down to 200Hz with clarity and accuracy... Just think about that for a moment.

I am sorry for your loss. One thing to note is that you cn probably sell them for about 75% of their value on eBay and then go buy new speakers.</font>
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
<font color='#000000'>Jaebus;

The positive things about your speakers are:
1) Brand Recognition
2) High Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF)
3) Good resale value

I suspect if you post a listing for your speakers on a few audio classifieds you will sell them with no problem.

You can then take that money and put it towards better products with little extra cost.</font>
 
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Jeabus

Audiophyte
<font color='#000000'>Yes I did hear them at a booze store theater. I tweaked them a bit so it sounds a little better but still not close to what I had heard. &nbsp;My reciever plays dvd's in Digital pro logic 2. &nbsp;Is this the correct setting? Thank you everyone for all your help.</font>
 
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Eric

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>Yup, Dolby PLII is a digital surround mode for DVD's.</font>
 
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avidaudio

Audiophyte
<font color='#000000'>Sell 'em. &nbsp;Boozers are good w/in narrow parameters, i.e. low volume. &nbsp;You just don't get something for nothing.</font>
 
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Jeabus : <font color='#000000'>My reciever plays dvd's in Digital pro logic 2.  Is this the correct setting?</font>
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Your Onkyo should be playing them in Dolby DIGITAL mode, not Dolby Pro Logic II. Make sure your DVD player is connected to your receiver with a digital TOSLink (optical) cable or coax digital audio cable.
If you are hooking it up via the stereo RCA connectors, then you are only going to get simulated surround sound, like Dolby Pro Logic II. Also make sure your DVD player is set to output bitstream, not PCM (in the setup menu).</font>
 
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