Finally, small but enjoyable!!!

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

I have always wanted to have a 800+ sq foot media room, but in this housing market, it does not look like a move is in the near feature. So, I took a small office/catch all room and made it over.

LCR are Definitive Di 5.5LCR
Rears are Definitive Di 5.5BPS
Infinity Cascade 15 Subwoofer
HSU MBM-12 mid-bass

Yamaha Reciever
Monster Power 5125 Amp
Velodyn SMS-1
Sony Blu Ray
Monster Power Center
LED - LG 47LW5500

Palliser Pacifico Power Seats

I went with the Cascade subwoofer because it would fit behind the seats, but that is not the best placement, in fact may be the worst. The sub does not go that low either. Was going for a clean look since the room was small, but performance is more important and will soon be upgrading to a SVS PB10-nsd and will have to find a place for it.

When working on the room, we put up some crown molding appx 8 inches down from the ceing and laid rope light (LED) that gives the room a nice setting when viewing with the family.

It is a small set up, but we are proud of it and thought we would show it off.

 

[Alex2507]

It's too clean ... muss that up some and report back.

For a moment I thought the rug had 'Bose State' written on it.

I like that crown with the rope lighting too.

 

[j_garcia]

SVS no longer makes the PB-10. I'm personally not a fan of in-walls, but the room looks good!

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

Thanks! I am looking at picking up a used NSD either here or at Audiogon. I would also go for a HSU VTF MK. I had one of those and miss it.

As far as the in-walls go.... if I had to do it again, I am not sure I would. The sound quality is better than I thot it would be. I knew I was going to give some up from when compared to a bookshelf and a give a lot compared to a tower, but with the room so small, and going for a clean look, I decided to go with the in-walls.

My daughters bedroom is on the other side and there is a lot of sound bleeding over... a lot more than I expected. I took the speakers out, lined both sides of the inner drywall with Dynamat and Dynapad (car product) but that only killed it a little... very little. There is no way I can get a decent volume (not loud at all) without waking her up. I might put in a extra layer of drywall and Green Glue on the bedroom side.

As far as the definitive Di in-walls, I like them! Being able to aim the tweeter was a big plus and noticed a big difference after adjusting.

I know a on-wall speaker would keep it quieter on the back side, but the clean look was so important, that if I had to do it again, I probably would not change. I'll keep working to fix the problem.

 

[j_garcia]

Aiming of the tweeter is definitely a big plus. I don't mind in-wall/ceiling for surround duty, as I have a friend who did in ceilings and it sounded great. It is just the front stage that I'd probably have issue with, mainly because I have gone through a number of speakers Current speakers have been here the longest though, and don't expect to switch them out soon. I am sure in-wall made the sound bleeding worse, but I don't think much is really going to stop it completely.

 

[Alex2507]

You sound like you know stuff when you talk about green glue and an additional layer of drywall but just in case you hadn't thought to stuff insulation into the cavity above and below the in-walls I thought I'd mention it. You can also laminate a strip of drywall to the inside through the speaker hole with mud to add mass. It can't hurt, right? and it won't impact the finish on the bedroom side.

 

[westcott]

Small spaces are always a challenge but you have done an admirable job and it looks nice and clean and I am a big fan of the uncluttered look.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

I had heard that stuffing the inside of the wall cavity with fiberglass would cut down on some of the sound, but then I had someone who 'knew what they were talking about' tell me that it makes it worse. Did not make sense to me how it could be worse, but I might give it a try.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Adam]

I dream of someday hearing a woman say your thread title.

That set up looks great - nice, clean, and tidy. Don't listen to Alex.

 

[avdoubleu]

All those remotes!!!!!!!!!!! If my daughter got in there they would all be missing in the abbys.

 

[Lulimet]

I am not a fan of in walls at all but you've done a really nice clean job. It looks great.

 

[timoteo]

For that sound bleed there is a product by Dynamat that works amazing!

DYNABOX...

A shop i go to has a display for them. They have a speaker playing real loud. You place the Dynabox over it & you almost cant hear it. They are pricey but in your case priceless. They also improve the sound on your side of the wall by creating a back box that obsorbs the rear wave creating less distortion. I wouldnt do any in-wall without them!!

Room looks great!!
Id get the VTF3-MK4.... Killer sub!!

How do you like your MBM? I love mine! I run it in sealed mode so i stuffed polyfill inside the MBM. It cleaned up & tightened the mid-bass. I had to turn it up 1dB more but made a noticable improvement!!

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

I have seen the Dynabox and just have not pulled the trigger. I will give it a try. From what I saw, it looked like a good thing to have for inwalls. I appreciate hearing from someone who has had them.

MBM - I like it. Had it in the family room at one point and it was awesome. Now in this smaller room, I am going to have to keep adjusting it to get it dialed in right. Right now it is boomy with the power down a good bit. I have it and the sub hooked up to SMS-1 and I may be trying to hard with all that. Interesting about the stuffing. I may give that a try.

 

[lsiberian]

For that sound bleed there is a product by Dynamat that works amazing!

DYNABOX...

A shop i go to has a display for them. They have a speaker playing real loud. You place the Dynabox over it & you almost cant hear it. They are pricey but in your case priceless. They also improve the sound on your side of the wall by creating a back box that obsorbs the rear wave creating less distortion. I wouldnt do any in-wall without them!!

Sounds interesting. If you want to clear the rear waves why not use rockwool?

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

timoteo,
DynaBox or En-wall? I see on the Dynamat site the Dyanbox is for ceiling speakers, but I would guess it could be used for in-walls.

Thanks.

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

Next Stage

Got a Christmas gift early. Have 2 Clark Synthesis Transducers TST209, with a Dayton 240w sub amp. Installed them but not without a lot of trial and error. There is no good place to put them on the Palliser power seats. In fact, I could not find a place for them anywhere without raising the seats 3 inches off the floor. Inside, the reclining rails took up the sides and the electric motor took up the middle. I put the on the bottom brace but it is only 1 inch above the floor thanks to the rubber feet. I think we are going to have to build a platform. Right now I have it all hooked up and made a frame out of 2 x 4 to keep the chiars raised for now. The TST209 are awesome.

I also have the rubber feet which seem to help.

We may be taking one of the TST209 back and getting the next step up - the Silver. With the two seats being separate, the one with one arm rest shakes a bit more than the one that has two armrest. The seat with two has more points of contact with the floor and is heavier. Thinking about putting the silver on it to see if we can get them a little closer in performance.

 

[Audioholics]

"Finally, small but enjoyable!!!"

Nah. Too easy.

 

[timoteo]

Whoops i think your right, the DynaBox IS for ceiling speakers. The En-Walls i believe are for just that, in walls.

The Rockwool yes will help with the rear wave not distorting the front wave. However the DynaBox/EnWall is made of heavy rubber that absorbs sound. Inside the rubber "box" is acoustical foam as well. The combination of these 2 material almost completely illiminates sound from bothering anybody in adjacent rooms. The OP mentioned that his daughters room was right behind the speaker wall. The Rockwool would barely help if any with sound getting into her room. The DynaMat products are incredibly effective with isolating the sound therefore keeping her room MUCH quieter.

Are you running your MBM sealed?

I took apart an old pillow & stuffed the polyfill into the MBM's port. I shoved it into all the corners, back by the amp & around/inside the port. Then i put the port plug back in & set it to sealed mode. It really tightened up the MBM!!

Another tip since your in such a small room is to keep the port plugged but have the switch set to "Vented". This will give it a steeper roll-off & give it less boom. Even if you have to adjust the volume up a little after these 2 things it will definately tighten up the response.

The only reason HSU didnt fill it completely is because it cant be filled if you have the port open.

So fill it up loosely with Polyfill, plug the port, set it to "Vented" on the plate amp & give it a go. Let us know if that helps!! Like i said, it will be a little quieter but turning it up to compensate is all thats needed if at all.

Hope it helps you out!!!

 

[thaisbeats]

in-walls have always been a good concept looks great good job!

 

[Pensacola Hi-Fi]

I stuffed the MBM and it did tighten up and is no longer boomy which was the main issue. I need to keep working on dialing it in. I have an sms-1 which I think I will keep on the pb10 and just try to dial in the MBM using the test tone disc.

Thanks Timoteo..... good stuff!