extending dish network coax

[Sounds Good]

i need to move my coax outlet, what is the best way to move it? i know when dish network came and installed everything i thought they changed the ends... i dunno if they are "special" ends...

can i just make a male/male extension piece? (hope that makes sense)

 

[TLS Guy]

i need to move my coax outlet, what is the best way to move it? i know when dish network came and installed everything i thought they changed the ends... i dunno if they are "special" ends...

can i just make a male/male extension piece? (hope that makes sense)

Satellite TV signals degrade quite quickly with every splice in the cable. You can not use splitters. If you need to extend the cable, use a good crimped barrel connector, and get yourself the correct crimping tool if you don't have one. You need the best lowest resistance connections you can make. Digital signals are very prone to back reflections at splice and termination points, so you have to be especially careful. These reflections increase data errors.

 

[Sounds Good]

thanks for the fast reply... my electrician is running the new power and i guess i am going to have him splice the coax, he said he will just use and extension like i had mentioned...

i called dish and they said that it will either work or it wont... no in between...

they can run the coax but they will charge me $99... but i guess if the electrician runs it and it doesnt work dish will come out for free and fix it (i guess)

 

[TLS Guy]

thanks for the fast reply... my electrician is running the new power and i guess i am going to have him splice the coax, he said he will just use and extension like i had mentioned...

i called dish and they said that it will either work or it wont... no in between...

they can run the coax but they will charge me $99... but i guess if the electrician runs it and it doesnt work dish will come out for free and fix it (i guess)

As long as your electrician uses good quality male connectors and barrels, and has the correct crimping toll for the male ends, I bet everything will be fine.

 

[Sounds Good]

would it be ok to just use a female to female

and buy a 25' pre terminated piece of coax?

where would i buy this stuff? and what grade coax chould i use for Dish Network? i am sure he just has the cheap commercial stuff...

 

[TLS Guy]

would it be ok to just use a female to female

and buy a 25' pre terminated piece of coax?

where would i buy this stuff? and what grade coax chould i use for Dish Network? i am sure he just has the cheap commercial stuff...

Those are the barrel connectors I'm talking about.

As far as cable goes, professional grade RG6 will be fine. If your electrician is any good, that is what he will have. I had my electrician provide the cable for my Direct TV, as I was afraid, Direct TV might have junk.

 

[highfigh]

thanks for the fast reply... my electrician is running the new power and i guess i am going to have him splice the coax, he said he will just use and extension like i had mentioned...

i called dish and they said that it will either work or it wont... no in between...

they can run the coax but they will charge me $99... but i guess if the electrician runs it and it doesnt work dish will come out for free and fix it (i guess)

There are several reasons real low voltage installers don't like having electricians working with this stuff- they often don't know anything about it and they don't care. They know solid wire/stranded wire- not coax, twisted pair, HDMI/DVI, etc. Also, compression fittings are to be used, not crimped (some call compression 'crimped', but that's incorrect). Crimping the coax can compress the shield so it's closer to the center conductor and this not only reduces the frequency range but also makes it less effective in rejecting noise/interference. RG-6 or RG-6 quad-shield is needed- RG-59 doesn't work well for this.

If someone runs additional cable and it doesn't work, Dish WILL NOT fix it free. It worked before they left and it's not their fault that it doesn't work after Sparky works his magic.

 

[highfigh]

would it be ok to just use a female to female

and buy a 25' pre terminated piece of coax?

where would i buy this stuff? and what grade coax chould i use for Dish Network? i am sure he just has the cheap commercial stuff...

What the installers have depends on who they work for. Solid copper center conductor is best because copper clad steel is too stiff for bending and the center conductor will compress the dielectric, making interference and shorts likely. Cheap commercial coax works better than some. It's not great when the electrician runs the coax parallel to his Romex, though. They do that a lot and have no problem pulling high voltage wiring through a hole that was used for the low voltage wiring (this should NEVER be done, but Sparkies don't usually care).

 

[TLS Guy]

There are several reasons real low voltage installers don't like having electricians working with this stuff- they often don't know anything about it and they don't care. They know solid wire/stranded wire- not coax, twisted pair, HDMI/DVI, etc. Also, compression fittings are to be used, not crimped (some call compression 'crimped', but that's incorrect). Crimping the coax can compress the shield so it's closer to the center conductor and this not only reduces the frequency range but also makes it less effective in rejecting noise/interference. RG-6 or RG-6 quad-shield is needed- RG-59 doesn't work well for this.

If someone runs additional cable and it doesn't work, Dish WILL NOT fix it free. It worked before they left and it's not their fault that it doesn't work after Sparky works his magic.

Good point I miss spoke. Using a compression tool is important, that is what I have here, but the rig is quite pricey, at least mine was. I should not have said crimp.

 

[Nemo128]

Run a new line if possible. Best solution, even if not the cheapest or easiest. Only possible if the line is in a conduit though. No other way you can pull it through using the old cable.

 

[Sounds Good]

Maybe I should just suggest that he use a barrel adapter on the old section and use a pre terminated 25' (the length of the run to my new outlet) section and take it straight to the back of the dish box insteas of making anouther jack.

Sounds like it can be easily messed up, and I don't want my PQ to suffer, exspecially sine I just got my new 50" panny g10.