equlizer?

[duncan618]

Can anyone tell me, if i were to add an equlizer to my 5.1, would it control my sub and fronts or just my fronts in "stereo" mode? I am using a sony str-de845 reciever that i've had for years which works well for movies but i mostly use it for music. I basicly want an equlizer to tone down that tinny midrange ring that some music tracks have. With my current settings 90% of my music sounds fine but its that other 10% that drives me nuts. Please help!

 

[WmAx]

Can anyone tell me, if i were to add an equlizer to my 5.1, would it control my sub and fronts or just my fronts in "stereo" mode? I am using a sony str-de845 reciever that i've had for years which works well for movies but i mostly use it for music. I basicly want an equlizer to tone down that tinny midrange ring that some music tracks have. With my current settings 90% of my music sounds fine but its that other 10% that drives me nuts. Please help!

Almost no surround receivers have provisions to add in an equalizer between the pre-amp and amp stages. Usually, you need to have external amplifiers, or be willing to open up the receiver and add in bypass circuits to route to an external processor and then back in to the amp stages.

-Chris

 

[mtrycrafts]

Can anyone tell me, if i were to add an equlizer to my 5.1, would it control my sub and fronts or just my fronts in "stereo" mode? I am using a sony str-de845 reciever that i've had for years which works well for movies but i mostly use it for music. I basicly want an equlizer to tone down that tinny midrange ring that some music tracks have. With my current settings 90% of my music sounds fine but its that other 10% that drives me nuts. Please help!

And, to add to WmAx's input, each channel needs an EQ. Some EQ has multiple channel capability but consumer ones of this type would not have enough bands in them to properly EQ the system.
The powered sub can be done with an EQ and Behringer makes a fine, inexpensive one that would be great for the sub.

However, in your case where most of your CDs are fine and 10% makes you beg for mercy, an EQ might help but then you'd have to bypass it on that 90% or that will be affected the other way.

 

[Alex2507]

The powered sub can be done with an EQ and Behringer makes a fine, inexpensive one that would be great for the sub.

After looking on their site I decided I'd like one of everything.
Would you be able to suggest one? Is there one that can do it's thing with speaker and line level inputs? Or is that plain crazy?

 

[Matt34]

The BFD DSP1124P is what most are using.

 

[Resident Loser]

Not really...

After looking on their site I decided I'd like one of everything.
Would you be able to suggest one? Is there one that can do it's thing with speaker and line level inputs? Or is that plain crazy?

...equalizers are line level devices...your gear would need a "true" tape monitor loop...or a processor loop...or pre-out/power-in jacks...All but the second as rare as hen's teeth in HT stuff. One could, however, equalize a source...say a CDP...but that would be only one source and usually systems are equalized as systems...

Most HT-centric gear does not allow for use of outboard equalizers due to the fact such devices can cause problems with the surround circuitry...many newer items have internal EQing, using self-generating test signals and microphones for proper set up...

I'm not aware of any EQs that will accept the higher levels of speaker outputs...

jimHJJ(...but then again, I wouldn't pretend to be familiar with everything that's out there...)

 

[Alex2507]

The BFD DSP1124P is what most are using.

That has XLR jacks. I am an RCA and speaker wire kinda guy. I'm really just curious about what I can do to make an Infinity PS10 sub better until I decide on and buy a better sub down the road.

Thanks and take good care.
Alex

 

[Resident Loser]

Okay...

That has XLR jacks. I am an RCA and speaker wire kinda guy. I'm really just curious about what I can do to make an Infinity PS10 sub better until I decide on and buy a better sub down the road.

Thanks and take good care.
Alex

...how's about the obvious: have you played with placement of the sub? Placement is really the way to go before resorting to EQing...Unfortunately sonics and WAF are mutually exclusive...what may look good may not produce optimum results and vice-versa...

jimHJJ(...one of Murphy's unwritten laws...)

 

[Alex2507]

The wife and the sub are gonna go where I tell 'em to go and they're gonna do what I tell 'em to do.

Seriously, I don't think I have a problem with the wife or the sub. An EQ for the sub is kind of like flowers for the wife in my view. My questions are geared to open my eyes to possibilities. This is where I come to learn. I'm starting to think that if I want a sub with an PEQ I should just get a sub with a PEQ. Sound about right?

 

[Nick250]

Bass traps made a night and day difference in my system. That's the first line of defense as far as I know. Someone correct me if I am wrong but as I understand it, bass traps have the potential to provide superior results than EQing. Room treatments and placement first, then EQing afterwords if necessary.

Nick

 

[Matt34]

Bass traps made a night and day difference in my system. That's the first line of defense as far as I know. Someone correct me if I am wrong but as I understand it, bass traps have the potential to provide superior results than EQing. Room treatments and placement first, then EQing afterwords if necessary.

Nick

That's the order as I understand it.

Alex2507,

You can get some RCA to 1/4 cables at Radio Shack to make the connection.

 

[mtrycrafts]

That has XLR jacks. I am an RCA and speaker wire kinda guy. I'm really just curious about what I can do to make an Infinity PS10 sub better until I decide on and buy a better sub down the road.

Thanks and take good care.
Alex

Not a problem. Get 4 adapters from Radio Shack to solve this issue, 1/4" to RCA.
At first, it is a programming nightmare, what controls do, etc. Then, it is easy, except going through the testing and EQ ing that can take a long time.

There is a website, I don't have it now, that explains and clarifies that Behringer EQ a lot. And, that one does it in the digital domain with 24 bit calcs.

 

[duncan618]

Thanks for the info. Guess I'll start lookin for a stereo rec. with a sub output.

 

[Alex2507]

I just wanted to say thanks as well. Even though I am aware of the importance of acoustical treatments it helps to be put back on track.
Discovering and learning about things you plug in though really pushes my hair back.

 

[RoyWill]

I know your original post is 10 months old but I just joined so didn't see it till now.
Why don't you simply use the built in equalizer, and switch it on or off as desired ? or is that too simple. I'm a retired tech. and simple is not always obvious, or not considered good enough for some "audiophiles". Hope you have the problem solved.