Emotiva isn't good becoz it's not in a mag, it's not in a mag becoz it isn't good...

john72953

john72953

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why aren't there any reviews from respected mags like The Absolute Sound and the like?
 
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audion3wb

Junior Audioholic
I dunno, probably because they don't pay magazines to advertise for them like the store brand companies do?

I'll tell you this. I have read enough magazine reviews about mediocre products that said they were the best thing since sliced bread. In my opinion magazines are good for seeing whats new out there once in a while or occupying you on the toilet :p.

Read what the real people on forums have to say about a product and you will get the good, the bad and the ugly from people who A. dont work for the company that makes the product B. aren't being paid to advertise by the comapany who makes the product C. offer a much more varied review of not only a product but also a review of the customer service received when purchasing.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
why aren't there any reviews from respected mags like The Absolute Sound and the like?
If I was Emotiva, I would never send one of my products to Absolute Sound, or any mag of that ilk. All involved with those types of rages, have a DSM diagnosis involving disorders of the delusional type.
 
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audion3wb

Junior Audioholic
Sorry, I almost forgot...

Emotiva is "that good' :D
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
It just seems odd to me that if a product were indeed that good, it would not have been picked up for at least "an opinion", if not a review by some fairly authoritative publications. You can dis them (publications) all you want, but their opinions are shared by many an audiophile.
 
john72953

john72953

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If I was Emotiva, I would never send one of my products to Absolute Sound, or any mag of that ilk. All involved with those types of rages, have a DSM diagnosis involving disorders of the delusional type.
And I'll bet you've never perused their pages on a product you may at one time have been interested in? Please!
 
avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
Most internet direct companies don't meet the requirements set forth by publications to be reviewed. Many of the larger publications require a certain representation within brick and mortar stores among other things. Such requirements go directly against the idea of internet direct sales hence the minimal representation in said publications.
 
john72953

john72953

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Most internet direct companies don't meet the requirements set forth by publications to be reviewed. Many of the larger publications require a certain representation within brick and mortar stores among other things. Such requirements go directly against the idea of internet direct sales hence the minimal representation in said publications.
But if they were that good don't you think that mention of them outside of the accolades bestowed on them by this site, would be inevitable. Good is good and that good would be mentioned somewhere. But it isn't.

Tell me I'm wrong..show me..give me links.
 
Soundman

Soundman

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It just seems odd to me that if a product were indeed that good, it would not have been picked up for at least "an opinion", if not a review by some fairly authoritative publications. You can dis them (publications) all you want, but their opinions are shared by many an audiophile.
Just so you know. Emotiva has been making their products for over 30 years. A lot of people don't know that. They aren't some start-up company. Many larger companies are very aware of them and have a lot of respect for that company. They are however a smaller operation, and due to that they do not have the same exposure as the larger companies do. Because their products don't appear in magazines has nothing to do with their performance. The reason they have been successful is because they make solid products at a very reasonable price. Most of their advertising is online, where their potential customers will be (they are an ID company). It's called smart advertising. They aren't wasting money on marketing like larger companies do and it keeps their cost down.
 
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audion3wb

Junior Audioholic
their opinions are shared by many an audiophile.
Yes, an audiophile with money. The mass market audio world is really very expensive to get high quality audio gear in. In turn the audio magazines out there only turn their attention to the big boys also as avaserfi said there are many reasons they don't meet the criteria for magazines to review them either.

Emotiva, just like so many of the other good ID audio companies are all about bang for the buck because unlike the guy and the B&W, Rotel, or Martin Logan store we don't have unlimited funds to blow on gear. If Emotiva never gets a cover shot of a major magazine that is fine with me.
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
Just so you know. Emotiva has been making their products for over 30 years. A lot of people don't know that. They aren't some start-up company. Many larger companies are very aware of them and have a lot of respect for that company. They are however a smaller operation, and due to that they do not have the same exposure as the larger companies do. Because their products don't appear in magazines has nothing to do with their performance. The reason they have been successful is because they make solid products at a very reasonable price. Most of their advertising is online, where their potential customers will be (they are an ID company). It's called smart advertising. They aren't wasting money on marketing like larger companies do and it keeps their cost down.
Because they have been around for that long, doesn't make them good by time default. Secondly, size has nothing to do with getting exposure for a great product. If you are that good you will get noticed.
 
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audion3wb

Junior Audioholic
look man, you have your mind made up and nobody on here cant change it. So why ask the question if you aren't open to peoples answers?

Emotiva amps rock. Theres are droves of people who will tell you this. If you don't want to listen, then go buy a rotel and be happy that you can see your amp pictured in a magazine.
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
Yes, an audiophile with money. The mass market audio world is really very expensive to get high quality audio gear in. In turn the audio magazines out there only turn their attention to the big boys also as avaserfi said there are many reasons they don't meet the criteria for magazines to review them either.

Emotiva, just like so many of the other good ID audio companies are all about bang for the buck because unlike the guy and the B&W, Rotel, or Martin Logan store we don't have unlimited funds to blow on gear. If Emotiva never gets a cover shot of a major magazine that is fine with me.
Then why hasn't that fact been brought foreward by even the lesser know publications or even the general media? If they were really that good they would have received mention somewhere at some time.
 
Soundman

Soundman

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Because they have been around for that long, doesn't make them good by time default. Secondly, size has nothing to do with getting exposure for a great product. If you are that good you will get noticed.
OK, so what are you saying? You think their products suck because they haven't appeared in your favorite magazine? This is the exact kind of thinking that has made Blose successful. They appear in about every mag imaginable, but it has nothing to do with the quality of their products.
Have you ever tried any of Emotiva's products? Try them out before bashing them just because they don't appear in a magazine. Print media is going the way of the dino anyway. Everything you read in a magazine, is outdated information from several months ago, so it doesn't mean a whole lot. Emotiva has appeared in several online publications and their products are reviewed quite regularly online. Again, that is their market. So, if you're insisting on a review, try reading one of those if it will make a difference for you. But really you should just try one of their products out and see if you like it.
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
look man, you have your mind made up and nobody on here cant change it. So why ask the question if you aren't open to peoples answers?

Emotiva amps rock. Theres are droves of people who will tell you this. If you don't want to listen, then go buy a rotel and be happy that you can see your amp pictured in a magazine.
My mind is NOT made up at all. I think I asked a legitimate question, but no one has been able to answer it for me.

Feeling a little sarcastic are we? I don't really care either way. All I know is this, I still don't have an answer.
 
sgtpepper9

sgtpepper9

Audioholic
look man, you have your mind made up and nobody on here cant change it. So why ask the question if you aren't open to peoples answers?

Emotiva amps rock. Theres are droves of people who will tell you this. If you don't want to listen, then go buy a rotel and be happy that you can see your amp pictured in a magazine.
I don't even on an emotiva amp, but well said. There seems to be no point to this thread.

Person A) Emotiva can't be that good...
Person B) I think they're good
Person A) But they're not in a magazine, they can't be that good
Person C) I think they're good

yada yada yada

If you are that against them and really believe them to be inferior and still feel the need to bash their rep, buy one (or borrow one) and and prove them wrong with some measurable results.
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
I'm gonna stop this right now.

The fanboy drivel is driving me insane. I ask a question and you turn it into me wanting to see an Emotiva ad in a magazine.

NONE of you having giving me a real answer as to why Emotiva is that good! It's all been shots at whatever answer I've returned and that's it.


Maybe its all of you who should get your heads out of the sand and think about the question I posed.

Dissing someone is easy...standing up with fact and reason is quite another story.


Like I said earlier...show me..., but you haven't.
 
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