Eichmann Technologies International Back?

[setlexia]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone remembers ETI?

They made the bulletplug like 10 years ago or something. I have their Q1000 interconnect and love them heaps but have just seen they updated their website?

Are they making a comeback? I also read that they are making a HDMI cable? does anyone know anything about these?

also, I was thinking of getting the ac power enhancing cable for my system at home but wasn't too sure. I read a review from their site done by stereo times? and that almost sold me but I wanted to see if anyone had any real experience and feedback for me.

Sett

 

[fuzz092888]

I feel as though you are in the wrong place if you'd like to talk about the pros of such expensive interconnects. Generally the guys around here don't buy into that stuff. Personally I don't think any cable is going to give me 490 Euro better performance than what I've got.

 

[setlexia]

maybe I am? have you tried the bulletplug? one of my mates told me that it would be cheaper if i just bought some bullets and made my own cable? any reccomendations as to what cable i should use? and whether I should spend the money on the silver or go with the copper?

 

[fuzz092888]

As far as I'm concerned oxygen free pure copper wire and any good interconnect will get you performance that won't affect audibility. At least, that's my understanding from reading more than a few threads about this sort of stuff. I've read about many different guys who have tried the super expensive power cords etc and couldn't honestly tell a difference.

I'm no expert and you'll probably get somebody who knows a lot more about the subject than I to comment. I'm definitely not the best person to ask. My advice would be to use the search function and look around until someone more knowledgable than I comes and helps.

Cheers

 

[setlexia]

Haha, thank you. most appreciated.

 

[jinjuku]

maybe I am? have you tried the bulletplug? one of my mates told me that it would be cheaper if i just bought some bullets and made my own cable? any reccomendations as to what cable i should use? and whether I should spend the money on the silver or go with the copper?

The cross-overs in your speakers consist of connections made of most likely 18AWG copper and solder.

The traces in your amp are copper with again solder connections.

Just saying.

 

[Adam]

The cross-overs in your speakers consist of connections made of most likely 18AWG copper and solder.

The traces in your amp are copper with again solder connections.

Just saying.

I'm not about to defend high-price cables, but that's not really apples to apples, is it? Those traces are several feet long.

 

[jinjuku]

I'm not about to defend high-price cables, but that's not really apples to apples, is it? Those traces are several feet long.

Why wouldn't it be? 3 foot of religion isn't going to fix 200 miles of sin.

 

[fuzz092888]

Why wouldn't it be? 3 foot of religion isn't going to fix 200 miles of sin.

I've heard that said many different ways, but I think this may be my new favorite

 

[setlexia]

So youre saying that the connectors I use and cables they are attatched to (for my interconnects) are irrelevant? or wont make any difference due to the crossover in my speakers and traces in my amp?

My understanding that a pure 1 metal signal path is preferable, eg copper connectors, copper cables, etc.

But the solder is always going to have a minor effect, and the type of connector makes a difference. EG the "eichmann ratio" using the single contact point for the return pin has a significant result in comparison to regular RCAs, there are even reviews about it on ETI's website comparing ETI connectors to other connectors and stuff.

If i was to DIY my own cable what would my chances be like with say, Silver Bulletplugs, silver conductor (or silver plated copper) and use their high content lead free silver solder?

Silver is the highest conductivity metal in that price point isn't it?

Sett

 

[Adam]

I'm not about to defend high-price cables, but that's not really apples to apples, is it? Those traces are several feet long.

Oops. I meant "aren't several...."

 

[jinjuku]

Silver is the highest conductivity metal in that price point isn't it?

Sett

Take a look at the PCB in your amp. In your pre-pro or receiver. In your source components. All with copper traces and soldered connections.

Now answer this question: Of the hundreds if not into a thousand plus connections made with a flow solder process on a copper circuit path is a silver line level or speaker level with some 'unique' connection method going to make all that other stuff correct?

They are potentially stating that a company like Krell, Bryston, Pass Labs, Monarchy Audio, Parasound, etc are essentially doing it wrong.

 

[setlexia]

Now answer this question: Of the hundreds if not into a thousand plus connections made with a flow solder process on a copper circuit path is a silver line level or speaker level with some 'unique' connection method going to make all that other stuff correct?

They are basically stating that a company like Krell, Bryston, Pass Labs, Monarchy Audio, Parasound, etc are essentially doing it wrong.

I never made such a statement. I merely implied that by what you're saying, Audio connector companies such as ETI, WBT, Cardas, are pointless? they have no affect on the signal at all?

Sett

 

[jinjuku]

I never made such a statement. I merely implied that by what you're saying, Audio connector companies such as ETI, WBT, Cardas, are pointless? they have no affect on the signal at all?

Sett

Respectfully IMO You are intimating.

This is the quickest way I can bring something like this to ground:

I would be willing to bet you a decent sum of money that if Mr. Skubinski or Mr. Cardas came over to my setup and I supplied some Cardas/JPS and Mogami Gold IC's that at the end of 10 coin flips I would be pocketing your cash when they couldn't follow the yellow bouncing ball.

I believe you are chasing your tail with this.

The point is one of audibility, the point is labels like BJC, Monster, Mogami etc (if you want to spend a little more) are just as good as AQ/Kimber/Cardas/EBT etc. And MIT, with their boxes of passive electronics, aren't cables.

 

[setlexia]

Understood,

So simply put. The connectors and cables I use to connect my system are are irrelevant? in your opinion?

 

[jinjuku]

Understood,

So simply put. The connectors and cables I use to connect my system are are irrelevant? in your opinion?

They are relevant in the sense that if you don't have them you get no sound.

If everything went wireless I wonder what the boutique labels would do?

 

[avnetguy]

If everything went wireless I wonder what the boutique labels would do?

They would push their own spread spectrum transmission stating it has greater noise rejection, you know using "hand picked frequencies" or something like that.

Steve

 

[its phillip]

If everything went wireless I wonder what the boutique labels would do?

more like this:
Blackbody : Ambient field conditioner | Audiophile power conditioner | Audio power cables by LessLoss

The Blackbody ambient field conditioner enhances audio playback quality by modifying the interaction of your gear’s circuitry with the ambient electromagnetic field. The Blackbody eliminates sonic smearing of high frequencies and lowers the noise floor, thus clarifying the stereo image.

lol

 

[Rickster71]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone remembers ETI?

They made the bulletplug like 10 years ago or something. I have their Q1000 interconnect and love them heaps but have just seen they updated their website?

Are they making a comeback? I also read that they are making a HDMI cable? does anyone know anything about these?

also, I was thinking of getting the ac power enhancing cable for my system at home but wasn't too sure. I read a review from their site done by stereo times? and that almost sold me but I wanted to see if anyone had any real experience and feedback for me.

Sett

If you're being sincere and are asking because you aren't sure:
The short answer is...don't waste your money. They don't do anything better than an OEM cable, except look cooler. It's marketing, they are selling the 'sizzle' not the 'steak.'
I suggest reading through more of the threads in this A/V Interconnects, Cables Forum. This type of question shows up frequently.

I hope I'm wrong, but your question here and on Audiogon AudiogoN Forums: ETI Cables and Connectors back?
sound a bit like a commercial posing as a question.

 

[setlexia]

Not a commercial i don't know the first thing about marketting, I work as a nightfill manager at Coles in Morley (Perth, Western Australia), I'm just geruinely interested. I've had the Q1000 for about 2 years now that a friend convinced me to buy. but since haven't heard much about them. then I saw them in Munich a few weeks ago and was like... wow, they are actually still trying haha.

Saw their website had been updated and just ran back to forums trying to see if anyone else knows more about what's going on? I've had very different information on the subject. but they did confirm they are making a HDMI cable.

My post is actually asking about power cables, That's what I want to know. no intention to start an argument on interconnects haha. I have mine, i don't care what people want to sell me. power cables with filters and the like. worth it or not?

Sett