EAGLES HOTEL CALIFORNIA dvd-audio defective pressing

[mowowither]

my denon dvd 2900 player would not play the advanced resolution 2 channel portion of the hotel california dvd audio disc. so i sent my player to denon and they sent it back and told me it was fine and that the problem was the hotel california disc. denon contacted the disc manufacturer and they said there were two versions of the disc, one version has the bright white top , and the second is the grey looking top, they said the grey top disc was definitely defective. and i believe it because i went through 3 of the grey top discs and none of them would play in advanced stereo. i have never had a white top disc to try out i think they are out of print. nobody else seems to know about these different pressings if they did then people would be offering white top hotel california dvd-a's on ebay because they work better. i guess the packaging and album cover are identical so you have to see the disc color itself to see which you have. the gray discs are almost white so i guess the white discs are bright white. anyway does anyone know where i can get a white one????

 

[FierceTIMbo17]

do you know where i can get either one? i have been looking everywhere i would take either one, wanna sell your defective one ?

 

[mowowither]

i found these listed online but i'd say they are the grey(bad) pressing
one store on ebay has 10 of the hotel california dvd-a's for sale i think they are in australia. another ebay store had one in the u.k. or somewhere just search "eagles dvd audio" on ebay and scroll down
amazon has 2 that are listed under new and used. i think they are factory sealed the best way to find those are to type "amazon eagles dvd audio" into your search engine. and click on the search result that takes you to amazon

 

[FierceTIMbo17]

i was walking through best buy today and i found dvd-a hotel california so i bought it and when i got home opened it up and just like magic it was a white top, it was a lucky day for me

 

[MACCA350]

The Hi-res stereo track works fine on my Denon 2200. The disc looks grey and was purchased in Australia.

cheers

 

[BostonMark]

I wonder

if your DVD-Audio won't play because of the very high sampling rate.

I had a similar problem with Neil Young on the Beach. My Pioneer 47A would play this advanced resolution disc, but it would downsample it, and another DVD-audio player wouldn't play it at all. The problem? Neil mastered the disc at 176 Khz! Most DVD-Audio is mastered at only 96 KHz which all DVD audio players can play. The Eagles Hotel Calfornia is another one of those discs where they went all out on the mastering. I believe that it is also mastered at 176 Khz. It may well be that your Denon 2900 simply is NOT capable of playing this Hi resolution playback. As a test go out and get one of the Neil Young DVD audios that is in stereo, like Re AC Tor, On the Beach, American Stars n Bars or Hawks n Doves. I believe they are all in stereo and all mastered at 176 khz. If your player plays these, it was the Eagles disc. If it doesn't it is the Denon being unable to cope with the highest resolution that hi resoltion offers. BTW my Pioneer Elite 45A universal player plays the 176 khz mastered discs with no problem.

Good luck! (btw I have the eagles DVD audio, never checked the top but both SS and stereo sounds aWESOME!

 

[Nick250]

This leads me to ask a tangential question. I will from time to time play a Concert DVD on my 2.1 system. Paradigm Mini Monitors, Denon 1705 and a low end Panasonic DVD player. No video, just audio. HFO is good example because to my ears the CD does not sound good at all while the DVD to my ears is the best of the best. In general do the superior audio qualities of a given 5.1 DVD survive the down mix to 2.1?

Nick

 

[BostonMark]

Depends on the mix!

hate to give such a generic answer, but I think its true. I have some surround sound mixes I love, the extra channels really add a lot, but on other recordings, I far prefer the original stereo mix.

I think a lot has to do with how a recording was originally mastered. Some mixes were first in STEREO and then remixed for surround. So, it depends!

Great Answer huh!

 

[mowowither]

if your DVD-Audio won't play because of the very high sampling rate.

I had a similar problem with Neil Young on the Beach. My Pioneer 47A would play this advanced resolution disc, but it would downsample it, and another DVD-audio player wouldn't play it at all. The problem? Neil mastered the disc at 176 Khz! Most DVD-Audio is mastered at only 96 KHz which all DVD audio players can play. The Eagles Hotel Calfornia is another one of those discs where they went all out on the mastering. I believe that it is also mastered at 176 Khz. It may well be that your Denon 2900 simply is NOT capable of playing this Hi resolution playback. As a test go out and get one of the Neil Young DVD audios that is in stereo, like Re AC Tor, On the Beach, American Stars n Bars or Hawks n Doves. I believe they are all in stereo and all mastered at 176 khz. If your player plays these, it was the Eagles disc. If it doesn't it is the Denon being unable to cope with the highest resolution that hi resoltion offers. BTW my Pioneer Elite 45A universal player plays the 176 khz mastered discs with no problem.

Good luck! (btw I have the eagles DVD audio, never checked the top but both SS and stereo sounds aWESOME!

that was my first thought that the 2900 could not play 192khz (which is what the eagles hotel california is) but denon told me the 2900 should play 192 khz. so i sent them my player and hotel california disc and the disc had the same problem on all their 2900 models. they contacted the disc manufacturer and somehow gathered the info about the gray pressing and white pressing. i have never tried any other disc above 96khz unless NEIL YOUNG harvest is above... (some people online have HARVEST listed as 96 some 176.4 and others say it is 192. )anyway i ordered CARLY SIMON no secrets today, when it arrives in a few days i will try the 192 khz stereo and if doesn't work then certain people at denon may have lied about the gray hotel california.

 

[BostonMark]

I also checked my Eagles DVD-Audio

and it is neither white nor grey, it is black on top. Keep us updated!