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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
If a receiver gives a spacification of dynamic power such as:
Dynamic Power
8ohm/6ohm/4ohm/2ohm 155/195/250/330
Does this mean it can handle a 4ohm, or even a 2ohm load? Or is this just a spec for speaker ohm fluctuations?
 
crashguy

crashguy

Audioholic
I think it is a way for the companies that make the things (looks like a Yamaha spec to me) to attempt to show the robustness of the amplifier section inside their particular component. It would be more meaningful if they published HOW they got those numbers (if they complied with some industry standard such as IEC or IHF or whatever one is still around).

I can tell you that my Yamaha Receiver has 2 ohm dynamic power specs listed in the brochure, but in the manual, it says 6 ohms is the lowest it is safe to operate. I think they are both hogwash. A speaker rated at 6 ohms may dip down to 2 at certain frequencies, and one rated at 8 ohms may also dip to 4 and rise to 12. The magazine "Audio Ideas Guide" (Andrew Marchall) to which I used to subscribe published impedence curves for all of the speakers it tested. It was amazing to see a speaker rated at 8 ohms was only an "8 ohm" speaker from 400 HZ to 2 KHz, and it had significantly different (higher or lower) impedence at different frequencies. Remeber, the rating on the back of the speaker is not an exact, it's a rough average, combined with what the manufacterer WANTS the speaker to be rated at.

Most receivers (the most common form of amplification - outsells all others) are rated as 6 ohm minimum. If you are Joe the Speaker Maker, and you want to sell lots of speakers, if you made them all 2 ohm, you'd only sell them to the people who could afford to buy the amps to drive them. If you made them all 8 ohms, you'd sell a lot more.

To summarize my long-winded answer, you are correct that it is likely there to indicate how the amp reacts to varying speaker impedence.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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zumbo said:
If a receiver gives a spacification of dynamic power such as:
Dynamic Power
8ohm/6ohm/4ohm/2ohm 155/195/250/330
Does this mean it can handle a 4ohm, or even a 2ohm load? Or is this just a spec for speaker ohm fluctuations?

Dynamic power is the amount it can deliver per IHF standards, 20 mil sec bursts, twice in a second.

So, that amp can deliver that much power on peaks of that duration.
How much it will deliver on a continuous basis is another story.
That amp should handle low impedances at low levels.
 
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nm2285

Senior Audioholic
Ideally i think the rule is every 2 ohm decrease, the amount of power supplied should double. Few if any amps can actually acheive this, but obviously an amp with the stats you listed is no where close to the ideal amp. It's power may be sufficient for 8 or 6 ohms, but i wouldnt drive it much under that.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
nm2285 said:
Ideally i think the rule is every 2 ohm decrease, the amount of power supplied should double. Few if any amps can actually acheive this, but obviously an amp with the stats you listed is no where close to the ideal amp. It's power may be sufficient for 8 or 6 ohms, but i wouldnt drive it much under that.
I think this may be a little off. My Adcom states it is stable @ 4ohms with 175 wpc(acd). And it is 125 wpc @8ohms. That is only a 50 w difference. But it is a rating (acd), while the dynamic power above is a 95 w difference, but only capable in 20 ms bursts.
 
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crashguy

crashguy

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Ideally,power should double every time the impedence is cut in half. The only amp I know that is capable of this in reality is made by Bob Carver (The Sunfire).
 
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dohanc

Junior Audioholic
Any amplifier will try to deliver twice the power into a given impedence. This is due to P = V^2 / R. The issue of whether or not a given amplifier is specified to do this is at full volume. You can certainly take an amp that was rated for 50W at 4 ohms and run it at 50W at 2 ohms, but this would have to be -3dB down. Turning it up to 0dB would certainly go beyond the amplifier's capability.

There *may* be some circuits designed to catch this low impedence condition for safety. I'm just guessing though.
 
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