driving me crazy 4k or 1080p

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mlstark21

Audiophyte
we read so much about viewing distance from your screen to listening position. the problem for me is should I go with the best 1080p projector or a non 4k native pixel shifting epson. I don't mind spending $ but my listening position would only be between 11-12' from my screen. it will be in a completely dark,dedicated room.guess I'm asking if I would notice enough of a difference (dramatic) if I spend $3000 on the Epson. I don't watch TV or sports, just movies and gaming . if the epson isn't dramatic,could you please recommend a top notch 1080p projector? I'm more interested in deep blacks and contrast than a superior color gammet. thanks so much

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mlstark21

Audiophyte
we read so much about viewing distance from your screen to listening position. the problem for me is should I go with the best 1080p projector or a non 4k native pixel shifting epson. I don't mind spending $ but my listening position would only be between 11-12' from my screen. it will be in a completely dark,dedicated room.guess I'm asking if I would notice enough of a difference (dramatic) if I spend $3000 on the Epson. I don't watch TV or sports, just movies and gaming . if the epson isn't dramatic,could you please recommend a top notch 1080p projector? I'm more interested in deep blacks and contrast than a superior color gammet. thanks so much

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not sure on screen size(100-120)gonna hang a sheet to c what size I like best
woven and 1 to 1.1 gain in Matte white
 
marticus

marticus

Audioholic
I don't have a 4k projector so haven't had the opportunity to do a back to back comparison so bear that in mind.

What i will say is that i'm sitting about 16ft from a 120" screen @1080p, and the picture is perfectly sharp, I can see the pixels if i'm 6ft from the screen but noones watching a screen that size from that distance lol.

I guess what i'm getting at, is that even if there is a visible difference in sharpness (which i'm sure there is) when i do upgrade, it won't be because of the extra pixels.

There are so many other things that go into making a good projector, with color / contrast / brightess being the biggest, not to mention lens quality.

all that being said, the epson (assuming you mean 5050/6050ub) is generally recommended because it does everything fairly well, not just that it is 4k. aside from the JVC and Sony units there doesn't seem to be much out there better for that price range.
 
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mlstark21

Audiophyte
I don't have a 4k projector so haven't had the opportunity to do a back to back comparison so bear that in mind.

What i will say is that i'm sitting about 16ft from a 120" screen @1080p, and the picture is perfectly sharp, I can see the pixels if i'm 6ft from the screen but noones watching a screen that size from that distance lol.

I guess what i'm getting at, is that even if there is a visible difference in sharpness (which i'm sure there is) when i do upgrade, it won't be because of the extra pixels.

There are so many other things that go into making a good projector, with color / contrast / brightess being the biggest, not to mention lens quality.

all that being said, the epson (assuming you mean 5050/6050ub) is generally recommended because it does everything fairly well, not just that it is 4k. aside from the JVC and Sony units there doesn't seem to be much out there better for that price range.
thanks...
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Ninja
thanks...
Of course there is a difference in the image definition between 1080p and 4K. While sitting at a distance of 9 feet from a 4K TV, the 4K picture is slightly sharper but the 1080p format is still pretty acceptable to my liking. As a matter of fact, I will be receiving a 4K set in the near future through a real estate gift. But personally, I haven't been anxious to get a 4K TV set and to purchase 4K Blu-ray discs since I have found the HD format rather satisfactory.

I suggest that you go to stores that provide a room where you can compare both formats, preferably with the same movie in both formats. That should help you decide as to whether it is worth spending extra bucks for the 4K format.
 
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mlstark21

Audiophyte
Of course there is a difference in the image definition between 1080p and 4K. While sitting at a distance of 9 feet from a 4K TV, the 4K picture is slightly sharper but the 1080p format is still pretty acceptable to my liking. As a matter of fact, I will be receiving a 4K set in the near future through a real estate gift. But personally, I haven't been anxious to get a 4K TV set and to purchase 4K Blu-ray discs since I have found the HD format rather satisfactory.

I suggest that you go to stores that provide a room where you can compare both formats, preferably with the same movie in both formats. That should help you decide as to whether it is worth spending extra bucks for the 4K format.
awesome idea thanks. it even would be worth the drive for me
 
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}Fear_Inoculum{

Full Audioholic
I just upgraded from an Epson Powerlite 8350 1080p Projector to the Epson 5050UBe 4K Projector in July. There is a big difference in the brightness, sharpness and overall picture quality.

That being said, the Powerlite 8350 1080p was a great projector for the time I had it. And (shameless plug :p ) mine is for sale.........
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Be aware that there is no quality 1080p out there.

Maybe I'm saying that wrong. But, not really. All modern projectors, above about $1,000 or so, have some version of 4K baked into them. So, if you get an Epson that is better than the 2000 series, it will have 4K acceptance, and will be doing a 1080p eShift tech to deliver half 4K resolution. If you get any of the DLP models with 4K, then you will have a 2x or 4x shift to put 8 million pixels on screen.

At normal viewing distances, both are very sharp and detailed. They are both a step up from 1080p native resolution, which is nice, but the big jump comes from their ability to accept expanded color palettes and put them up on screen. HDR is kind of lost on these models, but certainly not the wider color gamut.

In a dedicated room, with dark walls, ceiling, and carpet, the Epson 5050 is pretty much the undisputed king under $3,000 out there. From that point, you have to go up to a JVC model for native 4K and a actual boost in contrast. I'm a huge JVC fan, but the Epson is a lot less money and does a great job overall with balancing everything.
 
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mlstark21

Audiophyte
Be aware that there is no quality 1080p out there.

Maybe I'm saying that wrong. But, not really. All modern projectors, above about $1,000 or so, have some version of 4K baked into them. So, if you get an Epson that is better than the 2000 series, it will have 4K acceptance, and will be doing a 1080p eShift tech to deliver half 4K resolution. If you get any of the DLP models with 4K, then you will have a 2x or 4x shift to put 8 million pixels on screen.

At normal viewing distances, both are very sharp and detailed. They are both a step up from 1080p native resolution, which is nice, but the big jump comes from their ability to accept expanded color palettes and put them up on screen. HDR is kind of lost on these models, but certainly not the wider color gamut.

In a dedicated room, with dark walls, ceiling, and carpet, the Epson 5050 is pretty much the undisputed king under $3,000 out there. From that point, you have to go up to a JVC model for native 4K and a actual boost in contrast. I'm a huge JVC fan, but the Epson is a lot less money and does a great job overall with balancing everything.
thanks
 
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